Friday, June 10, 2016
Shavuot! Happy Anniversary Church!
Did you know that tomorrow is Shavuot, The Feast of Weeks, Pentecost? Yes, it has been 50 days since Passover. Shavuot commemorates the anniversary of the day that God gave the Torah to Israel, while they were assembled at Mount Sinai, just after the Exodus. It is also the anniversary of the giving of God's Holy Spirit, as a permanent indwelling, in all true believers. This also the Beginning of the reconciliation of the House of Israel and the House of the Gentiles, known as the Christian Church. Some believe that this will be the day that the Messiah will return, while I'm of the belief that it will be on a future Yom Teruah, Feast of Trumpets, at the last trump. Happy Anniversary Church!
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Hi Keith, I think that you should not put a cross into a pentagram; what does Christ has to do with the god of this world ?
ReplyDeleteAlso, I think that you should turn away from mount Sinai and come to Mount Zion.
Kind regards Paul
'It is also the anniversary of the giving of God's Holy Spirit, as a permanent indwelling, in all true believers.'
ReplyDeleteHow beautiful Keith that because of Jesus' sacrifice we can all be born again of God's Holy Spirit, be joined as one, and become the Spiritual 'Israel of God'.
'And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise' Galatians 3:29
Brenda, do you think that God has a Holy Spirit ? Tell me, which God has a Holy Spirit?
ReplyDeleteWhy is it, that you don't believe that the Lord is the Spirit? (2 Cor. 3:17)
You said, 'because of Jesus' sacrifice we can all be born again of God's Holy Spirit,'
Where does that say in the Bible?
That is just not true Brenda, you are making that up.
God is that Holy Spirit Paul, the Spirit that all have to have to be God's children, the Spirit that Jesus was born of.
ReplyDeleteJohn ch. 14 vs. 15 - 17 reads:-
'If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he will give you another Counsellor, to be with you for ever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him; you know him, for he dwells with you, and will be in you.'
It is the Spirit that joins us all together as one, not the flesh.
Jesus says in verse 10 that the Father (Who is Spirit) that dwells in Him gives Him the authority to speak the words that He speaks:-
'Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works.
Regarding how all can be born again of God's Holy Spirit Paul John ch. 3 v. 16 says:-
'For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.'
Paul, It's not a pentagram, but a hexagram. It is the Star of David, the beloved of God. I'm not really into man made symbols, but I chose the pictured symbol to show that the real church is the result is a renewed covenant. Y'Shia didn't come to create a new religion, but to fulfill the original relationship. By the way, Mt. Zion is the culmination or completion of what started in the Garden and confirmed at Mt. Sinai. One is not complete without the other.
ReplyDeleteBrenda, it's nice to know someone that actually understands Galations 3:29. Too many Christians believe in replacement theology, which is not even biblical.
ReplyDeleteThat is true Keith, we must not be taught by man, we must be taught by God.
DeletePaul, In the same way we are body, mind, soul and spirit, God and the Holy Spirit are one in the same. There isn't a separate spirit. God's Spirit dwells within us, in the same way, he dwelled within Y'shua. The big difference is that Y'shua was perfect in body, mind and soul, therefore God's Spirit functioned unimpeded, in contrast to our sinful body, mind and soul.
ReplyDeleteAmen Keith,
ReplyDeletePaul, the scriptures do not contradict one another when we read them through the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians ch. 2 v. 16 reads:-
'for, 'Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?' But we have the mind of Christ.
Romans ch. 12 v.2 instructs us:-
'Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.'
This proves true.
Yes Brenda, but you don't believe that!
ReplyDeleteThe Lord Jesus is speaking metaphorically about Himself and you don't believe that. For that reason He said, 'If you do not believe that I am 'HE', you will die in your sins (John 8:24)'.
That 'HE' is written with a capital 'H'. That does NOT refer to the metaphoric language (as Son), but it refers to GOD the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth.
That is where your problem is.
You are thinking that the Lord Jesus is talking about another one.
But NO! He is talking about Himself, and He is calling you to believe in Him and NOT in another one.
You certainly do not have the mind of Christ, otherwise you would believe in Jesus Christ.
No Keith it is not like that, we are not body mind, soul and spirit.
ReplyDeleteWe are body, soul and spirit. But men are born with a body and a soul, and with a dead spirit.
And for that reason Jesus said that we must be born again.
Paul, Look at what Y'shua, Jesus, said, in Mark 12:30 and look what Moshe, Moses, says in Deut. 6:4, and Gen. 1:21.
DeleteKeith you said, 'God and the Holy Spirit are one in the same.'
ReplyDelete'God and the Holy Spirit are one', do you mean, two different persons are one in the same.
'One in the same', WHAT ? Potato ?
Two different persons are one in the same, ? WHAT ? JESUS ?
You have a mind and a spirit. Does that make you two persons. No! It's your dimensionality, not separate entities.
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ReplyDeletejust as you have answered me with the same comment that you have put here on Keith's blog, it is best I answer you here with the same comment I have put on my blog:-
'I always refer to Jesus with a capital H (in He). Jesus is the Son of God.
If you read further on in John ch. 8 it reads:-
'He said to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins, for you will die in your sins unless you believe that I am he.” They said to him, “Who are you?” Jesus said to them, “Even what I have told you from the beginning. I have much to say about you and much to judge; but He who sent Me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from Him.” They did not understand that He spoke to them of the Father. So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on my own authority but speak thus as the Father taught me. And he who sent Me is with Me; he has not left Me alone, for I always do what is pleasing to Him.” (vs. 23 - 29)
I believe every Word that Jesus says, and here He is saying that He is the One sent from the Father, and Who declares what the Father has taught Him.
The Spirit in Him was the Spirit of God, which is the same as what is in us when we have been born again of that Spirit. He was the first of many brethren, the first born of all creation. He was not the first Adam, who was a living being formed from dust of the earth, He was the second Adam - a life-giving Spirit.
'So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit' (1 Corinthians ch. 15 v. 45)
God makes everything new and has a wonderful plan:-
'And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying: “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the former things have passed away.” And the One seated on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” Then He said, “Write this down, for these words are faithful and true.”…
All authority was given to Jesus by God Paul.
Amen!!!!Now that's the literal truth.
DeleteAlso, I love the resurrection chapter of 1Corinthians. I can't help quote, 15:34, which I do believe is applicable, with individuals, such as Paul. God holds individuals responsible for knowing God's ways, to their shame.
It is a beautiful chapter, three other lovely verses being 55 - 57.
Delete'Death is swallowed up in victory.'
'O death, where is thy victory?
O death, where is thy sting?'
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory THROUGH our Lord Jesus Christ.'
:-) :-) :-) AMEN!
DeleteWell brother, I have a soul and a spirit.
ReplyDeleteThe mind belongs to the soul.
The soul is feeling, sensing, thinking, imagining, seeing, hearing, reasoning, tasting etc.
So, a man has a body and a soul and the spirit is dead from Adams time, therefore the Lord Jesus said that we must be born again.
Only when we are born again, we have a body, soul and Spirit.
The Spirit is of God, the soul needs to be conformed to the Lord Jesus and the body is the vehicle to transport us around. (The temple of the Holy Spirit).
Those are NOT separate identities or persons, but ONE man, and God is also ONE but deity Jesus Christ.
God is NOT three person, but ONE person Jesus Christ and NOT Yahweh.
Paul, Regardless, it doesn't change the point. You are made up in the image of God, body, mind, spirit. Facts in evidence. It doesn't make either you, God, Brenda, me, or anyone else, multiple personalities. I am one being. God is one being. Brenda is one being and you are one being. The big difference is that God can malnipulate his spirit, in order to dwell within us, as he did and does with the Messiah, Y'shua.
DeleteBrenda, you said, 'all authority was given to Jesus by God'.
ReplyDeleteThat is a metaphor. Jesus is the Lord God and nobody gives Him authority.
Why is it Paul that you say certain scriptures are a metaphor, yet the scriptures that suit your doctrine are not?
ReplyDeleteBrenda, Doesn't that sound, pretty much, how Satan approached Eve? It's a tried and true method. Use the truth until it gets in the way, then change it to meet your needs.
DeleteThat is right Keith.
ReplyDelete'So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate;'
She was only interested in what was good for the flesh and she assumed that knowing good and evil would make her wise. Through the intervention of Satan she allowed herself to question what God had said to her, and isn't there a great danger of the same happening in the church today, believers being deceived by the spiritual enemy causing them to question God's word to them .
Thanks Brenda! God used you to remind me to reiterate an earlier post. Thanks!
DeleteYes Keith, God is ONE being, but that being is the Lord Jesus Christ and NO OTHER.
ReplyDeleteNO, it is not Yahweh.
Yes, Satan approached Eve because she was deceived, in fact she was quite deceived, but that was NOT so with Adam, Adam was NOT deceived, that is because Adam was created in the image of Jesus.
Then we agree, except God being Jesus. It's just not supported by scripture. The only way you can come to that conclusion is that you manipulate scripture to fit your personal docttine.
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ReplyDeleteBrendaJune 16, 2016 at 4:45 AM
Paul,
where does it say that Adam was created in the image of Jesus? The first Adam was actually formed from dust, and actually sinned through listening to his wife. To me it is a spiritual reference to what is happening now in the church.
Jesus was the second Adam.
'So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam a life-giving spirit.'
1 Corinthians ch. 12 v. 27 says:-
'Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.'
If we are the body of Christ on earth (through the sacrifice of Jesus enabling us to be reborn of God's Spirit) I believe the church is also in danger of being deceived, by listening to false doctrines and not ACTING on what that Word of God says to us, just like the first Adam was.
Keith, God being Jesus is the most important event. In fact, that is the highest knowledge there is.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing greater to know, but the knowledge that the Lord Jesus Christ is the creator of heaven and earth was born into His own creation.
All the Scriptures testify to that from Genesis to Revelation.
Brenda, Genesis 1:27 "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him"
ReplyDeleteWho is the image of God, ? Jesus of course.
Jesus created everything and apart from Him nothing came into being.
Brenda, the Church is already deceived. How can believers in Jesus believe that God is three persons ?
That is the greatest deception Satan has ever produced.
But remember, the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ can NOT be deceived. It is the Lord Jesus Himself who will teach His Children, and it is Jesus who builds His Church and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.
Remember, the wise virgins and the foolish virgins ?
The true Church and the false church.
They both believed in Jesus, but one believed in the TRUE Jesus and the other in a false Jesus (2 Cor.11:4), and for that reason Jesus said 'Depart, I never knew you'.
Paul,
ReplyDeletein the 26th verse of Genesis ch. 1 God says:- 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness;'
I believe this is God saying this to Jesus who would be seated at His right hand on the sixth day. One day is as a thousand years with God (2 Peter ch. 3 v. 8)
The fourth day would spiritually represent four thousand years after the first Adam was born. That was when Jesus was born of God's Spirit, and the sun and the moon quoted there in Genesis ch. 1 would represent spiritually Jesus (the sun) and the church (the moon, that can only reflect the light of the sun in the darkness of this world). It is only when we reflect the true Word of Christ, Y'shua, that we can claim to be part of the church.
Brenda, you said, 'I believe this is God saying this to Jesus who would be seated at His right hand on the sixth day. One day is as a thousand years with God (2 Peter ch. 3 v. 8)'
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly where you stumble and have been derailed.
If you would believe in Jesus, then you would know that the Lord Jesus has no GOD who needs to instruct or talk to Him.
In other words, which God is that 'who is saying this to Jesus' ??
Yahweh ? Certainly NOT !
There is only ONE God and that is the Lord Jesus Christ and He is NOT seated at any right hand of any god.
Brenda, you don't understand the Scriptures nor the power of God.
Paul,
ReplyDeleteJude ch. 1 v. 1 reads:-
'Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved IN Jesus Christ, and called:'
Corinthians ch. 8 v. 6 reads:-
'yet for us there is one God, the Father, FROM whom are all things and FOR whom we exist, AND one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH whom are all things and THROUGH whom we exist.'
2 Corinthians ch. 4 v.2 reads:-
'We have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways; WE REFUSE TO PRACTICE CUNNING OR TO TAMPER WITH GOD'S WORD, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.'
Paul,
ReplyDeleteHow can you say that Y'shua is not seated at the right hand of God when it is written in Romans ch. 8 v. 34 that He is:-
'Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died--more than that, who was raised to life--is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.'
If I have a choice of believing what is says in that verse written in the Bible or you, which do you think I will believe?
Paul,
ReplyDeleteHave you ever wondered how effective you could be, for the Lord, if you actually read the Bible? Let me guess, where it says that Y'shua sits at the right hand of the father is a metaphor, right?
Brenda, Let me save that God has blessed you with great patience, especially when discussing Paul doctrine with him. It continually amazes me that when scripture supports Paul's man-made doctrine, it is a literal truth. However, when it does not supports his position, it's a metaphor.
ReplyDeleteYes, I know Keith, that amazes me too.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I also believe that when we have discussions, and bring out scripture which supports scripture, then whosoever is reading will see for themselves, and we shall all learn from what each of us shares, what is the truth when we search the scriptures to see if it is true.
It is only the Lord that has blessed me with any volume of patience, and I have to say that the patience that He has with all of us surpasses any that we have.
Keith, you said, 'Paul, Have you ever wondered how effective you could be, for the Lord,'
ReplyDeleteTell me Keith, effective to WHICH Lord ?
Please read my comments and you can see to WHICH Lord I am effective.
Tell me, is there ANOTHER Lord next to the LORD Jesus Christ ?
The Bible says that there is only ONE Lord and not two. Yes, many lords but only one Lord who is God.
(Deut. 7:9) KNOW the LORD your God is God.
I know that you think that there is another Lord and secretly you would like to call that other one Lord (Yahweh).
But again, I think that you need to repent from believing in a god who is not God, or in a lord who is not Lord.
One thing, that I've got to give to you, is your ability to stay on track with a subject, regardless of what the Scriptures say. The day that you are able to explain how a God, that cannot die, died on the cross and a God, that cannot be in the presence of sin, took all sin upon himself, on the cross, I will entertain such ludicrous ramblings such as Jesus is the Father.
ReplyDeleteI believe, as the Scriptures reveal to all of us, in Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh, The Great I Am, Yahweh, our holy God and Father, which is in heaven.
I believe that all things were made by God, through the Word of God, which was manifested in the flesh, in the form of Y'shua, whiose name means Yahweh Saves.
I believe that God provided a sacrifice for all our sins, as he promised throughout all scripture. That sacrifice was Y'shua, Whose name means Yahweh Saves..
I believe that Salvation comes by way of believing in that sacrifice and relying on that sacrifice and taking in the Word of God, which is just you, whose name means Yahweh Saves.
'I believe that all things were made by God, through the Word of God, which was manifested in the flesh, in the form of Y'shua, whiose name means Yahweh Saves.'
ReplyDeleteAmen to what you have written here Keith.
Thank you my friend for those kind words, all though I always appreciate correction and rebuke for that is necessary for my spiritual growth.
ReplyDeleteThank you again for telling me what you believe.
You said, 'I believe, as the Scriptures reveal to all of us, in Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh, The Great I Am, Yahweh, our holy God and Father, which is in heaven.'
Keith, the Scriptures does NOT reveal that to you or to anybody else.
That is your statement. It means that you believe in a god called Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh and that he also has another name Yahweh.
The Muslims call him Allah, the Jehovah Witnesses call him Jehovah, the Christians call him whatever they like to call him (many names), the Hare Krishna call him Krishna etc. and you call him Yahweh and Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh.
I am a representative and an ambassador of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Kingdom, and I am saying that the creator of heaven and earth is the Lord JESUS Christ and any OTHER is a false god.
Anyone who believes in another, other than Jesus Christ transgresses the first and the second Commandment of the Lord and will not go unpunished.
You said, 'I believe that all things were made by God, through the Word of God, which was manifested in the flesh, in the form of Y'shua, whose name means Yahweh Saves.'
Do you mean that God made all things through somebody called Y'shua ?
If you really would believe that, then your god did NOT do anything at all.
Only an impotent god would give his job to somebody else to do.
You said, 'I believe that God provided a sacrifice for all our sins, as he promised throughout all scripture. That sacrifice was Y'shua, Whose name means Yahweh Saves..'
Well, that is not true. And Yahweh cannot save.
There is No other Name than JESUS given, in heaven and on earth and under the earth whereby you MUST be saved.
You said, 'I believe that Salvation comes by way of believing in that sacrifice and relying on that sacrifice and taking in the Word of God, which is just you, whose name means Yahweh Saves.'
If that would be true, then only when you are believing in that sacrifice you are saved, and when you don't believe you are not saved, and when you believe again you are saved again.
I call that a yo-yo salvation. Saved, not saved, saved, not saved, saved, not saved etc.
Perhaps you need to rethink that doctrine.
It is required from you to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and in NO other.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Yahweh Saves. Don't read into the Scriptures something it does not say.
Yahweh is an impostor who can NOT save.
Keith, I preach the Truth, I do not refuse the Truth.
The Truth which I preach is the Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
But you do not preach the Truth, you preach another called Yahweh who is NOT the Truth and he is not even found in the Bible.
You said, 'There is none more blind than he who has seen it all.'
How can a man be blind when he has seen it all ? I think that a man who has seen it all is NOT blind, because he has seen it all, anything else is nonsense.
A man is blind when he refuses to look.
A man is blind when he does NOT want to acknowledge that the Scriptures says that there is only ONE Lord and that Lord is the LORD Jesus Christ and NOT Yahweh.