Did you know that Y'shua, Jesus made Peter recant his denials three times, after his resurrection? Everyone knows that Peter denied the Messiah, three times, during his trials. However, at a post resurrection meeting at a lake, Y'shua, Jesus asked Peter three times, if he loved him. John 21:15-17. The interesting thing about this conversation can be found in the Greek. In reality, Y'shua, Jesus asked Peter if he loved and is committed to him, the first two times, and Peter responded, "Lord, you know, I like you." During the third time, Y'shua, Jesus asked Peter if he liked him. Peter responded with the same response. Immediately after the third time, Peter realized what had just happened and he wept. It is obvious that God expects confession but this also shows that, even though God expects our relationship to end in total commitment, he is willing to except simple acknowledgment, at the beginning. This begs a question that we need to ask ourselves daily. Are we walking the walk or just talking the talk?
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Hi Keith,
ReplyDeletePeter did not say that he liked the Lord, he said that he LOVED the Lord.
There is a big difference between like and love.
And the Scriptures said that you shall LOVE the Lord with all your heart.
Hi Paul,
DeleteFirst of all, I agree with you that we are to love the Lord with all our hearts, soul, mind and spirit. However, we are discussing two different versus here. This is what happens when you swear allegiance to a biased English version of the Scriptures, you do not get the whole truth.
If you were to study the Scriptures, from which you're biased English version is translated, you would find that there are three Greek words translated as love, within your biased translated English version, Agape, which means totally committed love, Phileo, which means brotherly or friendly love or like and Eros, which means sexual love. In John chapter 21, Jesus asked Peter if he Agape him. Peter responded, " bored, you know that I Phileo you." You see, when you refuse to look at the original transcripts, you missed out on the full flavor of the Scriptures.
I don't think that there is a word in the Bible called 'Agape'. It's just not there.
ReplyDeleteChristians have made that up. They say that it means 'unconditional'.
No one has an unconditional love, no my friend, not even God.
You need to read the English Bible :-)
The translators who translated the Scriptures could translate it better than those who do not speak that particular language.
When they translated the word LOVE, then it doesn't mean something else.
They didn't confuse love with lust.
The Lord Jesus made sure that they translated His Word correctly so that it would not be maligned.
I am truly and deeply saddened for you, that you have not experienced the love of God. If you would only open your eyes to his word and ear's to his voice, you could experience the unconditional love of God.
ReplyDeleteI have, and still am, experienced the love of God which is far above any that I have ever known. It is a love which brings a peace that passes all understanding and a love that I strive to have living within me as I work out my salvation in Christ.
ReplyDeleteHi Brenda,
ReplyDeleteI agree God's love does surpass all understanding and is bestowed upon us all. I am positive that God's heart is broken when that love is not returned and he has to punish or sentence one of us to damnation.
Hi Keith,
ReplyDeletethat is right.
1 John ch.2 vs.22-23 states quite clearly that the way to the FATHER is to CONFESS THE SON.
'Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son can have the Father; whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well.…'
Jesus was the anointed One through Whom is access to the Father.
Once again, we are in total agreement with the scriptures.
DeleteKeith, as you have said, if the love of God surpasses all understanding, then how do you know that He has an unconditional love ?
ReplyDeletePaul,
ReplyDeleteI can quote you many references, but all you have to do is think it through. John 3:16 says, that God loves the world. That same world is condemn already. Therefore, God loves everybody, regardless of the sin, they have committed. God also sent his son to die for everyone, knowing that the majority would not choose him. Sounds pretty unconditional to me.