As with most confusion, concerning the Bible, it all comes down to perception. The concept of Hell is no different. When attempting to perceive Hell, from a biblical point of view, one must go to the roots of it all, the Tanakh, the same words that Y'shua used, during his time of earth. You can go on the internet and find bunches of posts and articles explaining Hell. Well, this post will try to eliminate the confusion and reveal what the Bible says about Hell and how did the Jews, at the time of Y'shua and before, view Hell.
I would like to make this as concise as possible and get down to the bottom line. Therefore, I will not bring in anything, other than the Bible, into this discussion. Let's get started.
Within the pages of the Tanakh, the Old Testamemt, we find only three Hebrew words directly reflecting Hell or its effects. That is Sheol, Abaddon and Gehenna. As we go through the pages of the Tanakh and the Talmud and Mishnah, we find the following facts:
1. In the same way as the Heavens, Sheowl has different levels, as referenced in Deuteronomy 32:22, where it eludes to Tachtiy Sheol, the lowest parts of Sheol or Hell.
Fire burns from my nostrils. My Anger burns to the lowest parts of Sheol, consuming earth ever increasingly, scorching the foundations of the mountains.
2. Supporting the different levels of Hell or Sheol, we have Job 11:8. Also, here Job tells us that God presently watches over and takes care (extends his coalescing force) of everything from the unsearchable depths of Sheol to the highest Heavens.
High as the Heavens. Creating. Unsearchable depths of Sheol, you intimately know.
Colossians 1:17 drives that point home.
And he is superior to all things and by him all things are bound together.
3. Even though not named, Song of Solomon 8:6 gives us our first fiery reference of Gehenna, the lowest part and the fire and brimstone level of Sheol.
Set in place a signet seal upon your heart and soul. A signet seal of mighty arms. A love, fierce and mighty was with the penalty of death, severe as Sheol’s fiery coals, firey coals of fire, the flames of Yah
Once again, this verse also shows that God is in control of Sheol and Gehenna.
4. Many Jews and non-believers will tell you that Y'shua made up the concept of Gehenna, as the fiery punishment section of Sheol. However, the actual history of the name of Gehenna goes back to Jeremiah 7:31 and 19:6
After this manner, watch and see, a day will come, declares Yahweh, this very place will no longer be called a place of fire, a valley of the son of lamentation, but GehHaregah (Gehanna), valley of slaughter.
5. Before the time that Y'shua walked upon this earth, the Talmud revealed the name of Gehenna as the place where the young children of Israel were tossed into flames, as a sacrifice to BaĘżal, signifying the future place of the dead beneath the earth and the place of punishment, where they will feel the residual effects of Abaddon, which we'll get to, in a few seconds. Generally speaking, the wicked inherits the punishment of Gehenna, while the righteous inherit the Garden of Eden or Paradise or the life of the world to come, after going through the resurrection. So, no, Y'shua didn't make up the concept of Gehenna. God revealed it in his Word, before the incarnation of Y'shua.
6. For those who follow the significance of numbers, within the Bible, amazingly or "coincidentally", the word, Abaddon, appears only six times. Six is the number of the unrighteous man and Abaddon is the "destiny" of unrighteous man. Also, Abaddon is a Hebrew word that could be a noun or verb. That's why you find Apollyon, the Greek equilivent, in the B'rit Hadashah, the New Testament, as The Angel of the Bottomless Pit.
Who And What is the significance of Abaddon?
Throughout the Tanakh, Old Testament, Abaddon is destruction. The actual word means to destroy, is the manner of deconstructing, break apart. The acts associated with Abaddon are described by the Hebrew word Moog, which means to dissolve, fall apart from one form to the small parts that make up the whole. So, unrighteous man will be casted out from the presence of God, go through the boundary of the last level of Sheol, pass Abaddon, the gatekeeper of Gehenna and be totally separated from God. Going through this process, the unrighteous man will feel the effects of being dissolved and their soul will feel the effects within their separated reality. 2 Thessalonians tell us about this punishment of Abaddon and the resulting separation.
When the Lord is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.
Now, as for Hades and Tartarus, they are the Greek words for the same thing. Hades is the same as Sheowl and Tartarus is the same as Gehenna. However, there are myths and folklore concerning Hades and Tarturus, which I won't get into. In the end, all of Sheol (Hades) will be cast into Gehenna (Tartarus) Rev. 20:14-15. This means that, at God's command, Adaddon will close the door on the unrighteous chapter of man.
How About When We Die And Are Judged?
When we die, our souls will be in God's dimensionality, Again, there is no time. Our physical bodies go to the Sheol, which are restricted to time and this dimension, to wait out the end of time. You see, the amazing thing about God's dimensionality is that the events of our conception, birth, death, rapture, soul destination, all coexists because God's reality is not constrained by time. We can't fully fathom that reality, yet. In our minds, we see things in a linear form, one thing happening another. We see a glimpse of this in Isaiah 46:10. In God's reality, we are, in the same way as God is. He tries to tell us and Moses this, when he responded to Moses' question, "Who, shall I say to the Israelites, sent me?". God responded, "I AM." We are eternal. We existed before we were constrained to the limitations of our bodies.
How About The Supernatural Aspect Of Sheol And Gehenna?
Presently, within our Space-Time Dimensionality, Sheol is the only thing that is in existence. It is the grave, plain and simple. It is a holding place for the dead body. There is no Gehenna. Within our Space-Time, we have a model of Gehenna, just as Jeremiah 7:31 and 19:6 says and Abaddon is guarding the door of Gehenna, in the same way as the Cherubim, with flaming swords, are guarding the gate to the Tree of Life, within the Garden of Eden.
However, within God's dimensionality, God has prepared Gehenna, an isolated dimension, which has no bottom or no end. It is supernaturally and physically connected to Sheol, the physical grave, which is a place of confinement for the dead body. Gehenna is reference the lowest part of Sheol.
In God's reality, the Spiritual Realm, where there is no time, where the beginning and the end are nothing but a time construct. Gehenna does not contain Satan, his angels and all the unbelievers and the wicked....the anti-God. They are allowed to run about the Spiritual Realm, according God's Will. As Job 1 tells us, Satan still has limited access to God's presence.
In our reality, Gehenna has been reserved for Satan, his angels and those who refuse God's salvation. Satan, some of the Fallen Angels, Demons and Evil Spirits have been stripped of their physical dimensionality and are allowed to try and convinced us to join their ranks, from the Spiritual Realm. The one exception are those who left their God given positions and originally rebelled with Satan. These Angels and Demons are kept in the darkness, in eternal chains.
At the conclusion of the Judgement, the multiple levels of Sheol will implode into Gehanna. Amazingly, modern quantum physics tells us that if our physical universe would implode, like some models predict, it would spread out in one dimension. If such condensation occurs, that reality would be immensely hot. From God's point of view, it would look like a lake of fire.
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Revelation 20:14-15 "Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire.
Conclusion
With all this said, God's presence is everywhere and at anytime, even in Sheol. Psalm 138:7-8 tells us that. He holds all things together. Colossians 1:16-17. In Psalm 75:2-3, we find that there will be a time, in our reality, when one of God's dimensions, we believe that to be Y'shua, the Messiah, will fetch the assembly, the church. He will judge them, Satan and his evil ones, fairly and justly and the earth and rest of it's inhabitants will dissolve, in a feeling of immense heat. Peter reiterates this in 2Peter 3:12.
In the end, their soul will be completely separate from God and will feel the pain, suffering and desperation, Y'shua felt on the Cross and until his resurrection. How can this be, since we will be desolved? Because the soul is eternal and will always exist. It can and will exist with or without God. That's how God made us. We have the choice, right here and now, to choose. Will you spend eternity with God or separated from God and his power that holds all things together.
Shalom
Wow! There's a lot to take in. I really like the way you describe our reality compare to God's reality. God's perception compared to ours and touch of how science supports it. This is lacking in the church today. I'm going to read over this again and let in sink in.
ReplyDeleteHi Keith,
ReplyDeleteInteresting study. May all choose to follow Jesus and trust in His death, burial and resurrection, rather than reject Him and spend eternity in hell, separated from His love and light.
I find my self in agreement with the different levels or places that translaters have given one general name for as hell which leaves a lot to be misunderstood.
ReplyDeleteI’m not disagreeing or necessarily in agreement with the concept that the soul is immortal it seems that Would be equating is to being equal to God.
Mormons seem to really promote our soul existing before being joined to our body, that drawls a red flag for me and merits more study on my part.
But also the thought that the soul is immortal after it was created kind of troubles me too.
Cause of passsages like Genesis 3:22,24 talking about the man after having sinned being able to put forth his hand and eat of the tree and live forever. But as I read the scriptures I get this impression that eternal life or immortality is a gift and that eternal death just means there is no way that one could ever experience life again.
Listen I’m not saying I’m an expert in this subject obviously. I’m just saying that for to many years I’ve taken mans word for things and been lazy to not search them out for myself and seriously commit to understanding what Gods word actually says. This subject has been shaky and up in the air for me because every time that I dab into this subject I find to many pagan religions or beliefs supporting this immortal soul idea and wonder if it’s anothwr one of those ideas that crept into doctrines that is forcing the scriptures to support it. Once again I don’t know maybe one day soon I’ll take the time to really dig into the subject for myself and make some solid ground. SHALOAM
Hi Keith,
ReplyDeleteWow brother, that’s a lot of Jewish myth.
I wonder, what do you understand when you quote a passage like that ?
When the Lord is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.
Hi Keith,
ReplyDeleteI do not fully understand what Hell is but what always comes to my mind is that God wants all to be saved. I know that when I had my near death experience I knew I had been to that place before, and was told that it was not time yet and that I had to come back here. So I believe that my soul was in that place, which Paul the Apostle calls the third Heaven, and that I was sent back to share my experience and evangelize. As that was the third Heaven, then it is obvious that there are more than one Heaven, and I think maybe we are taken to different places when we die. The scriptures say that Jesus went to speak to the spirits of the dead, so maybe we are given more than one chance to be with Jesus. However the scriptures also say that if we sin wilfully when we know what is right then we crucify Christ afresh, so maybe someone who does that goes to another place. I really don't know. I believe that the important thing is that once we come to know Jesus, and no man can know Jesus except he is called by God, then we follow Him and be obedient to His Word.
Thanks Chris, I’ll wait for your assessment and additional comments.
ReplyDeleteHi Lauri, that is my hope also, that all come to Jesus/Y’shua instead of risking their eternal destination to hell. As we discussed in our small group, last night, most of us know very little about hell. How can we tell someone about the perils of hell, when we don’t fully understand it?
ReplyDeleteBrandon, I understand your confusion about the soul. In one place, the Bible says that the soul can die while other places say that it is eternal. I will look into it further. I’ve got a funny feeling that it comes down to how the original tongue was translated. I’ll get back with you on that one.
ReplyDeleteAs for Genesis 3:22–24, keep in mind they’re talking about the physical body, not necessarily the soul.
As for the gift of eternal life, I think the Bible is quite clear that eternal life, as a gift, is for the body and soul, with the Messiah and God, while the body parishes and the soul continues for the unbeliever.
I totally agree with you that we need to get into the word and see what the Bible says about hell, eternal life, etc. That’s why I thought this post was a great idea. The church is full of pagan folklore interwoven with biblical understanding. That needs to stop for us to be able to gain the closest relationship possible with God in our human form.
Hi Paul, it’s good to see you here again. All biblical references are there for you chase down. Please look at them and follow Acts 17:11.
ReplyDeleteAs for the 2 Thess reference, it is clearly a reference to the coming of the Lord and the final cleansing of the world and judgment upon all unbelievers.
Hi Brenda, I think it is important to have an understanding of what hell it is, especially since we are trying to convince people to believe in God, through the Messiah, in order to avoid hell. Of course, I feel that hell should not be the center point in our presentation of the gospel, but we should know what it entails, when the question surelyl will arise.
ReplyDeleteAs for your near death experience, it gives you a unique opportunity to share the third heaven, since Job tells us that the structure of hell reflects the opposite structure of heaven. It is truly a blessing.
As for having more than one chance, that is always up to God.
Look my friend, you don’t have to convince people to believe in God.
ReplyDeleteSince everyone believes in God even those who say that they don’t believe.
Wen they are in hell, everybody will call on God, but the true God will not listen to them, since they did not listen to me and to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Paul, that's interesting, I guess someone didn't let Jesus in on that fact. He told us to:
ReplyDeleteGo into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all peoples.
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations...
Of course, there's 2 Cor 5:20, where Paul said, "We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God."
As for last part of your last statement, about God not listening to the people in hell, I concur and better yet, the Bible concurs.
Thanks, for your comment.
Yes Keith, I am an ambassador of Jesus Christ and I admonish all of you to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
ReplyDeleteSo when the judgement of hell and destruction according to your sins is on you, then you know that you have not believed in the only one God who is the saviour of all.
As to the last part of your comment.
You see, when someone suffers the penalty for their sins in hell, then it is to late for them to repent.
For that reason they have an ambassador in this evil and wicked world.
...or those, who don't believe or repent, will end up in Gehenna, as my post says. So, Paul, do you believe that there are different levels to Sheol and the Heavens?
ReplyDeleteMost certainly Keith, would you punish your son more severely for a capital offence than for a minor offence ?
ReplyDeleteOr perhaps wouldn't you punish him at all ?
To brake the first and second commandment of the Lord Jesus Christ is a capital offence to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Just read those commandments of the Lord Jesus and you will see what He will do to you.
Paul, it doesn't matter what I would do. It's all about what God would do and did. Your logic holds no water.
ReplyDeleteFor around 4000 years, God showed that innocent blood was necessary for reconciliation. The first 2000 yrs, from Adam to Abraham, God presented this message to mankind, showing that mankind could not match the righteousness requirements of God. For the 2000 years, God showed that mankind would need a righteous and pure blood substitute for them.
For the first 2000 years man was shown their righteousness could not match the righteousness of God. No man could be found righteous to pay for their infringement of disobedience. For the next 2000 years, man was shown that no righteous blood could be found in an animal substitute either. After 4000 years, God gave man the one needed, who was a man, was righteous and had pure blood. That was Jesus Christ, Y'shua Ha Mashiach.
Since the Fall of Man, Sheol, the Grave, has existed. Death reigned supreme over God's people. Since Y'shua, the perfect sacrifice, Gehenna has existed, as the final punishment for man's refusal of God's supplied sacrifice. After the final judgement, all who refused the gift of God and Sheol will be casted into Gehenna.
Y’shua the perfect sacrifice ?
ReplyDeleteWhat on earth are you talking about Keith ?
Just STOP talking about that Jewish garbage stuff and lead others to believe that rubbish.
Acts 4:12.
Read the Bible, for there is NO OTHER NAME under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.
NO OTHER NAME !
What is it that you don’t understand by NO OTHER NAME ?
Or which part of “NO OTHER NAME” don’t you understand ?
No other Name apart from Jesus Christ !
It is Jesus Christ which was the sacrifice and NO OTHER NAME.
So, don’t use another name, other than Jesus Christ.
No other name UNDER HEAVEN Paul by which we must be saved. God appointed Jesus as our Saviour and gave Him all authority on earth to do this. Now Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father.
ReplyDeletePaul, many things you say can be proved false by scripture. I really do not understand how you can let the doctrine of man rob you of God's truth.
Look Brenda, what you are suggesting is the epitome of ignorance.
ReplyDeleteTo suggest that another god next of the true God the Lord Jesus Christ is commanding the creator of heaven and earth to do the things which your god can’t do, must surely be the epitome of ignorance.
And to make it worse; your god gets MY God the Lord Jesus Christ to sit at his right hand.
Brenda, Brenda, how foolish can you be ?
Yes Paul, Jesus was the Word of God made flesh, but sadly it is you who do not believe in EVERY WORD that comes out of His mouth. You only believe in SOME of them. I give an 'Amen' to every Word that comes out of the mouth of Jesus, the One mediator between man and God.
ReplyDeletePaul, my friend, a Rose, by any other name, is still a Rose and there is no Rose that smells sweeter than the Rose of Sharon, our Lord and Savior, Y'shua/Jesus. A name is defined by what you are known as and God is known by many names, within the Bible.
ReplyDeleteYahweh
El Shaddai
El Donai
Elohim
and on and on.
You can continue to get stuck on a name, but I will not get bogged down into a debate that takes away our mission to enlightened others, whether saved or unsaved, to the existence and Glory of God, through Y'shua/Jesus, who by all things are now completed.
Brenda, as always, my sister, you are correct and keep up the battle against all anti biblical things.
ReplyDelete“Against all anti biblical things” !
ReplyDeleteWell Keith and Brenda, why don’t you throw out ALL that unbiblical Jewish garbage, and then believe in the 66 Books of the Bible.
“Your mission to enlighten others”.
What ?
Enlighten others ? With that Jewish garbage ?
I don’t think so my friend !
My Father the Lord Jesus Christ has told me, “I AM THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD; he who follows Me will not walk in darkness, but will have the Light of life.” (John 8:12)
And he who follows your Jewish god Yahweh walks in the pits of darkness and will never see life.
Paul, After much prayer, over the last few months, since our last debate, God has impressed upon me to remember for myself and remind others that our position, with God, through Y'shua, is between that person and God. Therefore, I will rely totally on the Spirit to guide and not comment on your position in the Messiah or what happens between you and God, when you blaspheme his name, especially if I believe the person does it out of ignorance. With that said, you're not going to lure me into that type of discussion. The Word of God will be our judge and jury. Other than that, please reference any unbiblical items, within this post. Other than a couple of supporting references to the Talmud, which of the post is unbiblical. I actually followed Acts 17:11 and rechecked. I await your biblical critique.
ReplyDeleteKeith, did you noticed, you never ever mentioned the name of your god ?
ReplyDeleteWhy ?
Don’t you know the name of your god ? or are you ashamed to mention his name ?
Well my friend, that plastic god you are thinking of is nowhere mentioned in the Bible, no, not even ONCE !
Perhaps in the book of Alibaba and the forty thieves :-) but surely not in the Bible, in the Word of my only God Jesus Christ.
And there is NO mentioned of any Y’shua in the entire Bible, the 66 Books.
It’s just NOT there !
You are making that stuff up. It’s NOT in the Bible Keith !
How long is it going to take till you would believe in the written Word of God, the Bible ?
And in the living Word of God Jesus Christ ?
HOW long ?
Tell me Keith, how can you understand HELL, when you obviously don’t know the one who created hell ?
Or don’t you believe Jesus when He said, John 8:24 “You will die in your sins; for unless you believe that ‘I AM HE’, you will die in your sins.”
I’m sure you don’t know what it means to die in your sins.
Perhaps I should quote what the Lord Jesus said.
1 Corinthians 15:34 “for some have NO knowledge of God, I speak this to your shame.”
Yes, shamefully ignorant and no knowledge of God.
Jeremiah 4:22 “For MY people are foolish, They know Me NOT; They are a STUPID children, and have no understanding.”
Can you see, “For My people are foolish,” which people are foolish ? those who claim to believe in Jesus Christ. They have NO knowledge, they are ignorant and have absolutely NO understanding.
“They know Me NOT;” whom do they NOT know ? the only God of the Bible Jesus Christ.
“They are a STUPID children”, Yes that’s what they are, a STUPID children without knowledge and without understanding and unwilling to repent of their STUPIDITY. It is those who say that they rely totally on the Spirit.
Well what else you want me to tell you ? Hmmm.
Well, someone needs to tell you these thing so that you will not end up in HELL.
ReplyDeleteGood intentions are not good enough my friend.
Haven’t you ever heard, the way to HELL is paved with good intentions ?
Or perhaps my Lord will say to you on that day, ‘I never knew you, depart from me into the everlasting fire of hell’.
Once again, Paul, what are the non biblical references in this post about hell? If you’re expecting a fight, I won’t engage. Why do you feel the need to be combative? Why do you feel the need to be uncivil? I’m praying for you, buddy. I’ll never stop.
ReplyDeleteUncivil !
ReplyDeleteWhat are you thinking my friend, me, uncivil.
I am most concerned with your eternal life, and you call me uncivil.
O my, O my, O my, my friend, how quickly can you forget.
The Lord Jesus Christ has called me to be His WITNESS (Acts 1:8) “You shall be My WITNESSES both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.”
The Lord Jesus Christ did NOT call me to be a Jehovah Witness and neither did He called me to be a Yahweh Witness. But remember He called me to be a Witness for the Lord Jesus Christ, and all who will believe in Him shall be saved and all who will not believe shall be damned. That means in HELL my friend. That’s the place I don’t want you to be.
So therefore, you and everyone should make every effort to believe in JESUS Christ and turn away from every other god, whether Jehovah, Allah, Yahweh, and any other false god there is.
If you or anyone believes that, then you don’t need to know how many levels of hell there are.
Fantastic
ReplyDeleteThanks, Ohidul. I hope you will continue to join us in our studies.
ReplyDeletePaul, if you are a witness, then let’s discuss his Word, not yours.
ReplyDeleteThat is right Keith, His Word proves itself true and we can not add or take away from that written Word.
ReplyDeleteHi Ohidul, I have just been over to view your blog and left a comment. It would be nice, as Keith says, to have your views on our discussion here.
Keith, do you read my comments ?
ReplyDeleteThat is what I have been doing all the time, quoting the Scriptures and expanding on it, and explaining to you the differences between your false god Yahweh and the true God Jesus Christ.
Brenda, why do you say that you cannot add to the Word of God, when you yourself are adding to the Word of God all the time ?
ReplyDeleteSo, Paul, what is wrong with the post? Show me the unbiblical items. I will gladly debate you on that. As for your response to Brenda, please show an example of adding to the Word of God.
ReplyDeleteYes, please show me Paul where I have added to the Word of God and I will answer you.
ReplyDeleteYou are ADDING on another god to the Scriptures with another name called Yahweh which is not written in the Bible.
ReplyDeleteThis is called a damnable heresy, because you are leading the people away from the only true God Jesus Christ to another god which is the devil.
And there is no middle ground, either Jesus or the devil.
ReplyDeleteWhat a load of rubbish Paul, I can see that it does not matter how many times you look at the scriptures you will only see what you want to see. All I can say is, as they say over here. 'You should have gone to Specsavers.'
ReplyDeletePaul, I end this conversation with the same Biblical testimony, as always.
ReplyDeleteFor there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all.
My friend, you can't deny the scriptures. The scriptures are the truth.
One day, I hope and pray that you'll read the scriptures for yourself.
Brenda, I agree. Anything other than the actual scriptures is rubbish.
ReplyDeleteI like your saying,'You should have gone to Specsavers.' Spiritually, I take that as you need to put on Christ Colored glasses in order to see things the way they are.
Hi Keith
ReplyDeletewhat it means here when we say 'You should have gone to Specsavers' is that the person does not see clearly. Specsavers is classed as the UK's best reading glasses company. :-)
Yes Paul,
ReplyDeleteI too think it is time to end this conversation.
Yes, I think I agree with you to abort this conversation and I will leave you with the challenge.
ReplyDeleteYou are ADDING on another god to the Scriptures with another name called Yahweh which is not written in the Bible.
I’m sorry. Did I miss something? Who said there was more then one God?
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous, No, you didn't miss anything. You are correct. No one here said nor implied that there is more than one God. I assume that's what you are implying. Please check out what he is saying and check it out with the actual scriptures, in the same way Acts 17:11 commands us to do. The Spirit of God will definitely lead you into the Truth.
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous,
ReplyDelete1 Timothy ch.2 v. 5 reads:-
'For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;'
Can’t get around that, can you, Brenda?
DeleteY’ Shua said, “ I am the Word Manifested.” ... “I Am The truth, the Way and the Life. No one comes to the Father but through me.“
ReplyDeletePaul, you need to read the Word of God, for what it says not what you want it to say. I will continue to pray for you as I have promised for I am a faithful servant of Yahweh, whose name is proclaimed as God Almighty, El Shaddai, over 6000 times in His Word, through his Son, Our Lord, Y’shua.