Friday, March 30, 2018

It Had Been An Exhausting Night Of Prayer, But Y'shua Stood Strong, Obedient Unto Death.

It was around 1 am and, so far, it had been an exhausting night of prayer, but Y'shua stood strong from the encouragement and strengthening, he got from his attending angels. Y'shua began admonishing his disciples for sleeping and not praying with him, when their attention turned to the sound of the Temple Guard and some Gentile Mercenaries rushing to confront them. The disciples were astonished by the simple uncaring customary kiss upon the cheeks of Y'shua, by which Judah signaled to the guard, as to which one was to be arrested.

“Judah, with a kiss you betray the Son of Man?”

Immediately, Simon Peter picked up his sword and cut off the ear of one of the Temple Guard. With outstretched arms and stepping between his disciples and the Guardsmen, Y'shua said, "Stop this, now! This is not part of My Father's Plan". Y'shua, after picking up the severed ear, reached over and healed the wounded guard. Y'shua turned to the arresting contingent.

“Have you come out with swords and clubs, as you would against a common criminal? Every day I was with you in the Temple, yet you did not lay a finger on Me. But this hour has been appointed as yours, along with the power of darkness.”

Giving himself freely over to the Guard, he was taken to the house of the former High Priest, Annas, and then to the current High Priest Caiaphas and the Sanhedrin Court. For over five hours, Y'shua was illegally interrogated and verbally and physically abused, ending with Caiaphas enquiring of Y'shua,

“I adjure you by the living God, tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.”

Jesus said to him,

“You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Then the high priest tore his robes and said,

“He has uttered blasphemy. What further witnesses do we need? You have now heard his blasphemy. What is your judgment?” They answered, “He deserves death.”

During this moment, many of the Sanhedrin remembered the Law stating,

"The High Priest shall not let the hair of their heads hang loose, and not tear his clothes, lest he die, and wrath come upon all the congregation."

They silently gasped at Caiaphas' severe violation of the Law prohibiting the deliberate tearing of the High Priest clothes, but didn't say anything to derail putting this Y'shua to death, remembering that Caiaphas once said,

"Don't you realize that it is better for us that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.”

After the decision to petition the Romans to put Y'shua to death, they sent him to his first of two meetings with the Prefect of the Roman province of Judaea, Pontias Pilate.

After finding that Y'shua committed no crime worthy of death, Pilate attempted to wash his hands of the situation and sent Y'shua to King Herod. However, Y'shua refused to answer any of Herod's questions, so he sent him back to Pilate, who proclaimed Y'shua's innocence. It was at this time that Pilate said,

"It is customary to release a criminal during your feast. Should I release this Y'shua?

The crowd's response was quick and decisive.

"Crucify Him!!!! We don't want Y'shua!"

followed by

"We want Barabbas! "

But yet, at the urging of the crowd, Pilate handed him over to be whipped to the limit of the Law, which is 39 lashes and be crucified. During this beating, the Roman soldiers formed a crown of thorns and pressed it deeply into the flesh of Y'shua's head and mock him, saying,

"Hail King Y'shua!"

Afterwards, at about 11am, Y'shua, severely beaten and surely very weak from the loss of blood, was forced to carry the cross member of his crucifixion stake, to the site called Golgotha, outside the gates of Jerusalem. Somewhere, along the way, the Roman soldiers force a foreigner, Simon of Cyrene, to carry the cross for Y'shua, the rest of the way.

As noon approached, nails were driven through the hands and feet of Y'shua, to hold him to the crucifixion stake. Then the crossed crucifixion stake was erected between two criminals and there they stayed, for the next three hours. What started out as a crucifixion, in the scorching sun, ended up with darkness, by the end.

During this time, Y'shua uttered,

"Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

Y'shua was signifying, that even though it appeared to the Messianic Believers as premeditated murder, it was indeed Man-Slaughter, allowing the Jews relief of the righteous retaliation of the act of Murder.

Then one of the criminals who was hanged beside him blasphemed Him, saying,

"If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us."

But the other criminal, answered and rebuked him, saying,

"Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation? And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong."

Then he said to Jesus,

"Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom."

And Y'shua said to him,

"Be assured, I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise.”

Sometime around 3pm, Yahweh, acknowledged that the sin offering was sufficient and separated his fullness out and away and placed the sins of mankind upon Y'shua. Feeling very anguished from his Father's withdraw and the weight of mankind's sins upon him, Y'shua began to look all around and then upwards to Heaven. He then cried out,

"God? .... God? ..... Why have you left me?"

Being left with only his humanity, in rapid succession, he said,

"I thirst"

"It is finished."

"Father, into your hands I commend my spirit."

... and Y'shua died upon the Altar of God, as the ultimate sin sacrifice for the sins of mankind.

Joseph of Arimathea went to Pilate and asked for the body of Y'shua. He quickly purchased a one piece linen and with the help of the disciples, he wrap his body and buried Y'shua, within his own grave.

All this was done, before six o'clock, the beginning of Passover, when the children of Israel were looking for and sweeping up leftover leaven and hiding it away, in a cloth, for the short time, until the Feast of First Fruits, the next Sunday after Passover, when they would remove the cloth, from its hiding place, where their father had replaced it with a gift.

Additional Interesting Points

1. It is interesting to note that according to the Law, it was the acting High Priest, Caiaphas, that should have been put to death, when he illegally tore his priestly garments. In contrast, it was Y'shua who was put to death. His Priestly garment was not torn. John records this, regarding the soldiers who crucified Y'shua,

“...they said to one another, “Let us not tear it, but cast lots for it to see whose it shall be.” This was to fulfill the Scripture which says, “They divided my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.”

The allusion to the Psalm is certainly intended to indicate that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Davidic promise but interestingly, this detail also confirms he Messiah’s perfection with regard to this aspect of the priestly holiness code.

Again, in contrast, Caiaphas violated the requirements of his office by rejecting the Law as well as in rejecting the claims of the Messiah Himself and his arrogant passing of judgment on behalf of God and standing in evaluation over the very Messiah to which his office was to appoint.

2. Also, please note Y'shua means "Yahweh's Salvation", while Barabbas means "The Son of The Father." So, in reality, at the end of the trials, they weren't saying, "We don't want Y'shua!" followed by "We want Barabbas! " Instead, they were actually saying

"We don't want Yahweh's salvation!"

and

"We want the Son of the Father!"

Were they rejecting Yahweh's plan of Salvation and proclaiming that they wanted the son of their own father, Satan?

3. Most scholars believe that Simon of Cyrene was chosen to help with the cross carrying, strictly because he wore the clothes of a non-Jew, signifying that he was a gentile. It this prophesying that the gentiles must join the Messiah and carry the cross in their daily walk?

... and that's what you'll find, When You Search For The Truth.


68 comments:

  1. Nice.

    I have written about barabbas too.

    Let me add a second thought to what you said about him. Bar Abba, the "son of God". People threw away the real son of God for a false one.

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  2. Thanks Tim, I was afraid it was too long, even though there was so much more involved. Great point about the people throwing away the real son for a false one.

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  3. Yes, very nice. Have you thought about writing a book or adding it to YouTube? :-)

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  4. Thanks, Chris, I have thought about a book, maybe when I retire. Yes, I’m working on YouTube videos. I’ll tell you the same thing I tell Brandon, keep after me about it. I definitely want to.

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  5. My o my o my Keith, have you been writing your very own parallel Bible ?

    Well, I think it would be easier to read the existing Bible, at least that Bible is a lot better than your parallel Bible.

    You know, the ordinary Bible is the Word of God and not your own perverted bible who diminshes the Lord Jesus Christ to a mere man.

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  6. Paul, what is not Biblical? I know you’re not familiar with the concept, but please list the non biblical parts.

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  7. Keith, as it is with every parallel bible, it is NOT the ordinary Bible and therefore it is not the Word of God, it is a PERVERSION of the Word of God, unacceptable to every saint of the true and ONLY God Jesus Christ (1 John 5:20 and Jude 1:25).

    What is not acceptable ?

    Well, everything is not acceptable, because it’s a distortion of the truth.
    Haven’t you read, a little leaven leavens the whole lump.

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  8. Paul, by your own words, you condemn every English translation, for they do not translate word for word from the original text. Everything that I wrote in the post, appears in other books of the Bible

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  9. Hi Keith, I am in an area of free WiFi at the moment. Regarding Jesus's crucifixion and Barrabbas' release - I have always seen this, and I think I have put it in a post, as:-The Son of the Heavenly Father (The second Adam) setting free the son of the earthly father (the first Adam).

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    1. Hi Brenda, sorry for the delay responding to this, I agree that if you read the scriptures for what they actually say, how would you get any other interpretation? When do you think you will be getting permanent Wi-Fi service to your new home?

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    2. Hi Keith, no idea, am in the free WiFi area at moment. The builder says that the provider keeps giving different dates. Lovely things going on at the moment with the group of believers that I have been directed to. God bless, will keep in touch, God willing.

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  10. The ordinary Bible?

    30 English translations but there is an "ordinary" bible.

    I wonder if white people are the "ordinary" people?

    I guess the Puritans are the ordinary believers.

    Just when I thought it was safe to go back into the water. What a stupid statement.

    Please explain what an ordinary Bible is and do not give some circular reasoning that makes no sense like, it is the Bible God gave us or it is the one God wrote for us.

    Strictly state what the ordinary Bible is.

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  11. Keith, how many times do I have to tell you, there are NO ORIGINAL texts !
    NO, not even one original text.

    You only say that in order to deceive your disciples and to lead people away from believing that Jesus Christ is the ONLY God (1 John 5:20 and Jude 1:25 etc.) and then you introduce another god in the place of the Lord Jesus Christ and call the other god “Yahweh”.

    But now, you claim to have the ORIGINAL text which nullifies the ordinary Bible, and then you change the Name of Jesus Christ to an ordinary man called Y’shua.

    Look my friend, you desperately need repentance and turn away from your false god Yahweh and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and then you also need to be baptised into the Name “Jesus Christ” for the forgiveness of your sins.

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  12. Um....Paul,

    I was the one who asked you about that not Keith. Do you read anything correctly?

    I asked you to explain exactly what the ordinary Bible is. And when did Keith CLAIM to have the original text? You're the one who is claiming to know the exact wording of everything. So tell us, what is the ordinary Bible? And are white people the ordinary people? Don't do what you normally do and run away. Don't say it is not relevant because you are the one who brought it up. So come on, please, enlighten us.

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  13. No Tim, Keith was referring to the “original text” and not you.

    And if you don’t know what an ordinary Bible is, then ask your pastor or anyone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ, they surely will tell you.

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  14. Paul,

    When I am wrong I will say I am wrong. I do now see where Keith did talk about "original texts". And for that I apologize. But when you answered only once and two of us were speaking to you I assumed the last comment by you since it did involve a piece of what I said was directed as THAT post.

    But everything I said still stands and would like explanations, which you did not provide, so I will restate the post:

    30 English translations but there is an "ordinary" bible.

    I wonder if white people are the "ordinary" people?

    I guess the Puritans are the ordinary believers.

    Just when I thought it was safe to go back into the water. What a stupid statement.

    Please explain what an ordinary Bible is and do not give some circular reasoning that makes no sense like, it is the Bible God gave us or it is the one God wrote for us.

    Strictly state what the ordinary Bible is.


    Your only answer was to ask my Pastor, well I am asking you since you are higher than a pastor, you are an ambassador of Christ, please tell me what the ordinary Bible completely is. Is it the KJV, is is the NIV, is it the NASB, is it the Amplied, which English version is the ordinary Bible? Because they are different in may ways.

    For once and for all tell the world right now which one is the ordinary Bible?

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  15. Keith, if God is the only ONE without sin, then please tell me, WHO did die for Y’shua’s sins, since all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God ?


    Well, I tell you, it is the Lord JESUS Christ who died for the sins of the world and perhaps for Y’shua’s sins too, whoever that Y’shua might be, but surely Y’shua did NOT ascended up to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God. But only JESUS Christ ascended up to heaven, because, from there He came and He went back again.

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  16. And there he goes again, skipping responses when his own blog says: "Please let me hear your thoughts".

    So here it is again for a 3rd time,

    30 English translations but there is an "ordinary" bible.

    I wonder if white people are the "ordinary" people?

    I guess the Puritans are the ordinary believers.

    Just when I thought it was safe to go back into the water. What a stupid statement.

    Please explain what an ordinary Bible is and do not give some circular reasoning that makes no sense like, it is the Bible God gave us or it is the one God wrote for us.

    Strictly state what the ordinary Bible is.


    You can't do it can you?

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  17. Paul, it is true that God is without sin. However, don’t you read your Bible. Doesn’t it said say that Y’shua/Jesus was made to be without sin, in order to be a sin offering?

    “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” 2 Cor 5:21

    Jesus would have been a naturally born sinful man, if it wasn’t for the fact that God made him perfect, in the same way God made the original Adam perfect. Isn’t it time that you read the Bible for what it actually says?

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  18. In addition, Paul, why don’t you answer Tim’s questions? I would like to know what your definition is, concerning an “ordinary Bible”. You know very well that when I say original text, it is the one from which your Bible has been translated. There are so many translational errors between the two that’s just spins my head, and boggles my mind that a “ambassador of Christ“ would defend such errancy.

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  19. 2 Corinthians 5:20-21 “Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled God. He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”

    No Keith, He did not say that “Y’shua/Jesus was made without sin, in order to be a sin offering”.

    You need to read what it says and not what you like it to say.
    For you are saying that God who is without sin, was making a man called Y’shua also without sin to do a job for God and be a sin offering.
    That is faaar from the truth !

    The Lord is saying that you ought to be RECONCILED to Him, for there is NO OTHER God than the Lord Jesus Christ.
    (1 Tim. 3:16) tell me, WHICH God appeared in a BODY ?
    It was Jesus who appeared in a BODY and it was Jesus who sacrificed Himself on the cross for our sins and NOT Y’shua.
    (Isa. 45:22) Look at Me and be SAVED, for I am GOD and there is NO OTHER !
    If Jesus is God our savior and there is no other (Jude 1:25 and Isa. 45:22), then why do you call Yahweh to be your savior ?

    How long is it going to take till you would believe in the Lord Jesus Christ ?


    You have said, “if it wasn't for the fact that God made him perfect,”

    Yes, but that is a figure of speech (Metaphoric).
    It was the LORD GOD by the Name of Jesus Christ who made the sacrifice perfect, and NOT another God who made the Lord Jesus Christ perfect.


    You said, “ You know very well that when I say original text, it is the one from which your Bible has been translated.”

    Keith, you are confused, that is why your head spins around.
    OK. there are NO original texts, they translated the Bible from various different manuscripts which came from various different part of the world and in different languages.

    But we claim that the Bible is the WORD of God and NOT those manuscripts whatever they are, makes no difference.
    Now, if you would believe that, then perhaps your head would stop spinning and you could see clearly, my friend.
    And then you can pick any ordinary Bible from the local bookshop, by that I mean, if possible not a Eugene Peterson bible or Jehovah Witness bible, but even then, in any of those bible the gospel is still contained.

    And there are NO errors in the Bible, absolutely NO errors in the Bible.

    Just in case it has escaped you, 2000 years ago they did NOT have Bibles, tell me, how did they hear the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ as to be saved ??

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  20. Paul,

    I will give you partial credit for your partial answer. Believe it or not some of the things I partially agree with but your answer is not complete.

    Since you only answered part of it then you make us assume the rest. Here is what I am assuming:

    1. You finally stated that the original words (how's that...I didn't say text so we can understand what you're saying) are in a different language
    2. Then they were compiled to complete the ordinary Bible.

    That is what it sounds like you're saying. Does that mean you are also saying that as these words were being written they were not "scripture" yet but only when they were collected and finally translated into English that this is when they became scripture and the ordinary Bible was completed?

    Is that what you are saying????? Please either confirm or deny this so we can understand. Because if this is accurate then I understand a lot more of what you're saying.

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  21. Once again, Paul, why don’t you read what the Bible says, rather than what you want to believe? There are certain facts that you cannot get around.

    1. Y’shua/Jesus is the first born of all creation. God is not the first born of all creation. He is before creation. God encompasses and transcends all of creation. God did not, does not and will not create himsell. To say otherwise is just plain stupid and ignorant and totally unbiblical.

    Also, the Bible tells us that Y’shua/Jesus had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

    2. Jesus offered himself to God as a sin offering. He was made sin by God for that specific purpose . God did not make himself sin. You can’t say God is sinless and then turn around and say he made himself sin. Even you can see that is stupid .… Plain stupid, ignorant and idiotic!

    3. Jesus was tempted three times in the desert. The Bible tells us that God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. Quit saying stupid things that are not in the Bible.

    4. The Bible tells us that Y’shua/Jesus was a son and he learned obedience through what he suffered. And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him, God cannot learn. He knows all things. Are you saying God is ignorant? Y’shus/ Jesus didn’t even know the time of his own return. Again, are you saying that God doesn’t know everything?

    5. Jesus told us that he had no authority other than what God gave him. That authority came to Y’shua because he had the fullness of God dwelling within him. Can’t you read plain English? I’m not even trying to use the original manuscript, text or words. I am giving you the plain English.

    I could go on and on, but it is obvious that you’ll not read the Bible for what it says, only what you believe in allegiance to your false doctrine.

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  22. As for the Bible, during the time of Jesus, once again, you are wrong.. They had the Tanakh you call it the Old Testament. Quit talking like you know what you are talking about. You’re worse than a child that is still on the tit. What do you think that Jesus was using on the road to Emmaus? It was the law and the prophets. Quit being an idiot and saying stupid things. I can’t believe how a supposed intelligent 57 yr old, would allow himself to be lead by the nose so easily, by Satan.

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  23. Have you noticed that every time the truth of the Bible gets in the way, Paul discounts it as a metaphor? What a lark.

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  24. This is Matt.. I can’t get my account to work on my iPhone. Yes, I agree. Paul has definitely redefined metaphor. A metaphor is any time when Paul gets trapped in the corner by the truth of the Bible.

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  25. Hey guys! Yes, he has played that card way too many times. I ignored it when he attempts to use it. It holds no water.

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  26. Look Tim, I’m not going to split hairs, or straining a gnat and swallow a Camel.

    So, I say it again, ONLY the words that are written in the Bible is the Word of God, or are the Scriptures, and NO other texts, parchments or writings regardless what those scripts a saying whether true or not true makes no difference.

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  27. No Keith, He did not say that “Y’shua/Jesus was made without sin, in order to be a sin offering”.
    You are making that up all by yourself.

    OK, I will read it to you.
    2 Corinthians 5:20-21 “Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled God. He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”

    You need to read what it actually says and not what you like it to say.
    For you are saying that God who is without sin, was making a man called Y’shua also without sin to do a job for God and be a sin offering.
    That is faaar from the truth !

    The Lord is saying that you ought to be RECONCILED to Him, for there is NO OTHER God than the Lord Jesus Christ.
    NO OTHER GOD ! and you must be reconciled to Jesus Christ my friend.

    (1 Tim. 3:16) tell me, WHICH God appeared in a BODY ?
    It was Jesus who appeared in a BODY and it was Jesus who sacrificed Himself on the cross for our sins and NOT Y’shua, or do you want me to say that it was GOD who went to the cross.
    (Isa. 45:22) Look at Me and be SAVED, for I am GOD and there is NO OTHER !
    If Jesus is God our savior and there is no other (Jude 1:25 and Isa. 45:22), then why do you call Yahweh to be your savior ?

    How long is it going to take till you would believe in the Lord Jesus Christ ?


    You have said, “if it wasn't for the fact that God made him perfect,”

    Yes, but that is a figure of speech (Metaphoric).
    It was the LORD GOD by the Name of Jesus Christ who made the sacrifice (Jesus) perfect, and NOT another God who made the Lord Jesus Christ perfect.

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  28. Hey Matt, are you on the work computer?

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  29. Sorry, I used your account again. Hahaha

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  30. Hey I got it to work. Please delete my false entry. I reiterate my question. Hey Paul, this is Matt. If those original manuscripts said that the water was murky as Louisiana swamp water and your Bible said the water was clear as day. Which one would be correct?

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  31. Done. No problem. However, it looks like I'm going to have to change my password. :-)

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  32. You keep repeating my words back to me is not going to change what the Bible actually says, my friend. Also, totally ignoring my supporting verses will not change the truth. You have your head in the ground, refusing to read what it says.

    OK, Paul, let's read it together. Hebrews 2:17. I know you can do it. What does it say.

    Here is it comes.

    For this reason he HAD TO BE MADE like them, FULLY HUMAN IN EVERY WAY, in order that HE MIGHT BECOME a merciful and faithful high priest IN SERVICE TO GOD, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.

    God is not a human. Quit being stupid.

    and yes, in 2 Corinthians 5:21

    ...He MADE Him who knew no sin TOI BE SIN on our behalf.

    You cannot be that blind. Look at it. Read it. I'm sorry but I have very little patience for idiots tonight and people that make things up.

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  33. Paul,

    I am not asking to split hairs. I am asking you to explain what you said. If you do not explain and all we can do is assume then we could come up with distorted ideas.

    So, I will repeat:

    1. You finally stated that the original words (how's that...I didn't say text so we can understand what you're saying) are in a different language
    2. Then they were compiled to complete the ordinary Bible.

    That is what it sounds like you're saying. Does that mean you are also saying that as these words were being written they were not "scripture" yet but only when they were collected and finally translated into English that this is when they became scripture and the ordinary Bible was completed?

    Is that what you are saying????? Please either confirm or deny this so we can understand. Because if this is accurate then I understand a lot more of what you're saying.

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  34. Paul, as for 1 Timothy 3:16, it says:

    And without argument, great is the mystery of godliness: God was seen or appeared IN THE FLESH... Whose flesh???? The man Y’shua/Jesus. God doesn’t have flesh. Y’shua/Jesus has flesh. That is exactly what the rest of the Bible says, that the Spirit of God dwells WITHIN Y’shua/Jesus.

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  35. My, O my, O my, there is NOT one among you who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ, NO, not even one.
    Not even one who would give any glory to Jesus Christ.

    But all of you are quick to tear the Lord Jesus down from His throne and set another god in his place, a god who is not even mentioned in the Bible. And then you think that a man by the name of Y’shua will save you.

    I wonder what the Lord Jesus will say to you when you meet Him.
    Do you think He will say to you, “Depart from me I never knew you” ?
    Or do you think He will say, ‘you never defended Me, and never confessed Me before men, and never worshipped Me, and never said anything good about Me, therefore I will let you into My kingdom’ ?

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  36. As to 1 Tim.3:16 Yes, God did appeared in a BODY, and it wasn't Y’shua, it was Jesus Christ.
    And NO, it was NOT that another person called Yahweh appeared in the body of Jesus Christ as you always are saying.
    As I have said before, the Lord Jesus Christ does NOT have a split personality disorder, TWO different persons living in ONE body.
    Those are false doctrines from hell.


    And the Bible does NOT teach that kind of false doctrines.
    Why can’t you just believe that God appeared in a body, which is Jesus Christ ? and NOT Yahweh.

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  37. Paul,


    I'm really trying here but you don't make it easy to like you. All I did was ask a question to understand your meaning.

    I have in the past answered every one of your single solitary questions.

    Could you please answer or respond to this in a complete way and not some cipherous rhetoric, just once!!!

    1. You finally stated that the original words (how's that...I didn't say text so we can understand what you're saying) are in a different language
    2. Then they were compiled to complete the ordinary Bible.

    That is what it sounds like you're saying. Does that mean you are also saying that as these words were being written they were not "scripture" yet but only when they were collected and finally translated into English that this is when they became scripture and the ordinary Bible was completed?

    Is that what you are saying????? Please either confirm or deny this so we can understand. Because if this is accurate then I understand a lot more of what you're saying.

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  38. Paul, you said, "My, O my, O my, there is NOT one among you who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ, NO, not even one.
    Not even one who would give any glory to Jesus Christ."

    Wrong again!!! We give glory to Y'shua/Jesus. The glory that is due him as the Son of God, our Messiah, the Branch of Judah. This was even prophesied in Zechariah 6:12-13.

    "This says Yahweh, our Creator, saying, Behold the MAN whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he will build the temple of Yahweh. He shall build the temple of Yahweh; and he shall bear the GLORY, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both."

    You also said,

    "But all of you are quick to tear the Lord Jesus down from His throne and set another god in his place, a god who is not even mentioned in the Bible."

    Again, WRONG!!! Y'shua/Jesus isn't in his throne yet. He is standing at the right hand of Yahweh. He will have a throne, when the new Heaven and Earth. It's actually you who has dethroned Yahweh and put Jesus in his place. Once again, what you are saying is not scriptural.

    You said, "I wonder what the Lord Jesus will say to you when you meet Him."

    That's easy. He will say, "Well done, good and faithful servant. You have faithfully attempted to follow my ways. You give my Father the Glory by giving me the Glory. Well Done, my good and faithful servant."

    I know that's what he says, because he says that to me everyday.

    I've got a good idea what he will say to you, but that's between you and him. You may be saved, but he will definetley give you a lesson on who God really is. But again, that's between you and him.

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  39. Tim, It is not that you don’t like me, but rather it is because you don’t like the one whom I represent, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
    And we all know that you have a reputation for NOT reading the comments properly.
    So therefore, do not put words into my mouth.

    You said, “1. You finally stated that the original words (how's that...I didn't say text so we can understand what you're saying) are in a different language”

    So, is that what I have finally stated ?

    I don’t think so. I don’t use the word “ORIGINAL”, and neither do I think that the Word of God is written in a different language for English speaking people.

    Look Tim, the BIBLE is the Word of God and nothing else. And if something is said DIFFERENT in another language, other than English, then the other language is false. And if it says the same as in English then we don’t need to know what the other language is saying, we have the English Bible.

    Now, the same applies when I represent the Word of God in German, to German speaking people. Then the BIBLE which is written in German is the Word of God and NO OTHER language !

    You see, if it were not so, then I can mislead you to believe what is false, that is because of my other language skills.
    That is why we have so many pastors in all churches who always pervert the Word of God and say, “in Greek it means such and such”.
    Seemingly, most pastors can not speak a word of Greek, but they know everything better than the Bible, the Word of God.

    And just read Keith last comments, that is a typical example of deception galore :-)
    Perhaps you can see how Keith perverts the Scriptures of the Old Testament. Even though the Bible does NOT say that at all, but of course, he knows it a lot better than the Bible.
    He’s got both fingers in his ears, and he chants LA, LA, LA, LA :-)

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  40. Keith, it does NOT say “Yahweh our creator” when the Bible clearly said that is was Jesus Christ who has created everything John 1:3-10 and Col. 1:15-20, for by Him all things were created etc.
    Keith, you need to read the Bible my friend.

    “For some have NO knowledge of God, and I speak this to your shame” (1 Cor. 15:34).

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  42. Paul,

    No I am pretty sure it is you that is annoying me not the word of God, in any language.

    But what you said is really just messed up.

    Keith is telling you a lot of what it says in Hebrew is to the Jews. So, IN YOUR OWN WORDS "And if it says the same as in English then we don’t need to know what the other language is saying, we have the English Bible.

    What he is saying is that to the JEW this is what it says. To the JEW....JESUS' name is Y'shua. The Jew doesn't need English because they are not English, right?

    Keith just likes to speak the word of God in Hebrew to feel closer to God.

    Now you two differ on some doctrine, but you no longer can ever say that Y'shua is NOT Jesus to the Jew and they would be still right.

    So here is a summary of what you are saying:

    Germans have the Bible written in German for Germans.
    French have the Bible written in French for the French.
    Spaniards have the Bible written in Spanish for Spaniards.
    English have the Bible written in English for the English.

    But...what came first? German? French? English?

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  43. Tim, the Word of God is messed up for YOU, but NOT for me.

    I have told you, if you say something in another language which is different in the English language, then that which you are saying is NOT TRUE.
    YES, NOT TRUE ! it is a LIE !
    And remember, ALL liars, their part will be in the lake of fire, that burns in hell, whether you believe it or not, makes no difference. Do you want me to quote that from the Bible ?

    You said, “Germans have the Bible written in German for Germans.
    French have the Bible written in French for the French.
    Spaniards have the Bible written in Spanish for Spaniards.
    English have the Bible written in English for the English.

    But...what came first? German? French? English?”

    Yes they do, and which one came first, well, it doesn't matter, whether it was was the Gutenberg Bible because they invented the printing press in Germany 1439 or what, makes absolutely no difference.
    But what makes a difference is, whether you know GOD or NOT.
    For the Lord has vengeance on all those who do NOT know God (2 Thes. 1:8).
    And for ALL those who do NOT know and believe that the God of the Bible is the Lord Jesus Christ, they will die in their sins (John 8:44).
    Just as I have said in my last comment “that some have NO knowledge of God, and I speak this to your shame” (1 Cor. 15:34).

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  44. Paul,

    The word of God is the word of God. It speaks to everyone.

    Anyway, your answer is still cryptic. Just because something is not in English does not make it automatically wrong if it differs.

    And yes it does matter which came first. Because if the English language developed out of the German language then the German language would have the correct words FIRST and then it NEEDS to be written down and translated correctly.

    Such as for example IF, notice I said IF before you go off on some stupidity train, IF Spanish was first and they wrote down "de nada". It is directly translated as "of nothing", but that is not how it reads. It is "your welcome" in transliteration. BOTH are right but only one has the true meaning.

    So if someone from Spain tells you de nada, what is your answer? Are you going to tell them NO YOU'RE WRONG, it should be YOU'RE WELCOME you dumb Spaniard.?????

    You really need to answer my questions. You keep talking about the topic but you really are not answering them.

    What is the ordinary Bible? Is it different for a German than for an Englishman?

    And if you just kind of admitted that Gutenberg Bible was first then how do we get the English translations? It does matter.

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  45. So, Paul, what you are saying is that if you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth? There has to be a standard. That standard is the oldest verifiable text. Not one that came at a later time.

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  46. Look Tim, the Word of God has NOT yet come to you, and for that reason you cannot understand it.
    The Word of God is spiritually discerned. And for you, you must receive the Spirit of God, and if you have NOT received the Spirit of God, then you don’t belong to God (Romans 8:9).

    But we who believe in JESUS Christ, we have received the Spirit of God and we understand (1 Cor. 2:12).

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  47. Yes Keith, there is a standard and that is the Bible.
    So do yourself a favor, and buy yourself a NASV, or a King James, or a NIV, and don’t forget to throw your book in the rubbish bin.
    And then start afresh, repentance and call on the NAME of JESUS etc.

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  48. Paul,

    I have received the Holy Spirit.

    But what you just said to Keith, there are only three ordinary Bibles. NASV, KJV, and NIV.

    What about the other 30 or so English translations?

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  49. Tim, you don’t need 30 Bibles, you must DO what the Lord has said in the Bible and not only be a hearer and so deceive yourself.
    So when you read that the Lord’s Name is Jesus and NOT Yahweh, then you will call on the Name of Jesus in order to be saved. Because the name ‘Yahweh’ is NOT mentioned in the Bible, and Yahweh is an imposter, the devil who masquerades himself as an angel of light.

    So then, when you call upon Yahweh, you are calling the devil, because you DO NOT believe in Jesus who the Christ, and that only HIS Name can save you.

    Look Tim, it’s not Einstein's theory, it is simply BELIEVING in Jesus Christ.
    I don’t know why you insist to believe in this devil you are calling Yahweh who cannot save, yes, he can give you a good feeling and make you to have a relationship with him, but he cannot tell you the truth, because he is a liar from the beginning Genesis.

    You see, when a man receives the Holy Spirit, that man Will love the Lord Jesus Christ with all his heart, mind and soul, and would never believe in the devil called Yahweh.

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  50. Paul, your train has derailed. Your beliefs are so off the mark. Yes, Salvation is through the Son of God, Y’shua/Jesus, who was sent into the world by Yahweh. You do realize that just because you continue to say there is no Yahweh doesn’t make it real. Like I said before, you say a lie long enough, it becomes the truth for you.

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  51. Keith, I am on the train who is bound for GLORY.
    And I would like you to join me on that train, it’s just great and wonderful to have the Lord Jesus Christ on board, and the Captain of the host is Jesus and we follow in His footsteps and no weapons formed against us shall stand.

    BUT my friend, you can NOT come on this train without repentance, or you will be left behind.

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  52. Paul,

    So if I don't need 30, which one do I need? Because some English translations differ from each other. And don't tell me to ask my Pastor. I am asking you, an Ambassador of Christ. Which Bible is the ordinary Bible? You still haven't really answered that. And when I tried to summarize what you're saying you ignored it.

    Then you tried to switch the conversation that you're having with Keith onto me.

    I am proving to you right now that I am filled with the Holy Spirit. I love Jesus. I worship Jesus. I believe Jesus left me with His Spirit to guide me and lead me. Case closed.

    So, please now address what I have asked of you. If you are a true ambassador of Christ you will tell me exactly what the truth is without any cipher, distortion, or half path.

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  53. Tim, so you claim to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and love Jesus and worship Jesus.

    So, if your testimony would be true, then why did you not correct and rebuke Keith for worshiping the devil called Yahweh ?
    Why were you silent ?
    And at times even defending that devil called Yahweh ?

    You supposed to KNOW, that you ought to worship only ONE God which is Jesus Christ our Lord and only God (Mat. 28:9 and Exodus 20:3), and NO OTHER !

    NO OTHER means just that !
    You should have made every effort to lead your brother back to Jesus Christ and save his soul from hell, if indeed you would be filled with the Holy Spirit.

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  54. Paul,

    Keith's relationship with God is between him and God. And I know Keith personally. We have been friends for 20 years. I know how he lives. I know his past. I know he puts too much mustard on his hot dog. I know his heart. I don't agree with everything he says but I know what he means when he says it. I don't misinterpret everything he says like you do. I don't put words in his mouth like you do. I know when he says Y'shua it's the same person as Jesus since all it is is his name in Hebrew. That is what we are trying to get you to realize. You have admitted plenty of times now that English is NOT the oldest language and the Bible has been translated into English from another language. That language would be Hebrew. I know when he says YHWH that he is saying God of the Old Testament and in Hebrew and many "ordinary" English Bibles it is there. It may not be in the three English Bibles you approve of but the word is there starting 4000 years ago.

    Yes, I worship Jesus. And yes I will defend at times what Keith is saying but I agree with you sometimes too. And you and I are saying the same thing many times but you won't agree. I say and have said many times that Jesus is the Son, Jesus is the Father, Jesus is the Holy Spirit. But I believe YHWH is the Father that is manifested in the Son. I believe the Son left us his Holy Spirit. You used to bring in math to this equation. I am telling you it is the same thing as the transitive property of equality. If a=b and b=c, then a=c. If one is one and another is that one then that other is the same as the first one. You will disagree with all of that. That I am ok with. I have issues with your other theories that you add your own assumptions in.

    All three of us believe Jesus is the Messiah. Keith just likes to use Hebrew and say Y'shua Ha Mashiach. The same thing. We all differ on what to call the Father and the Spirit but we still agree that these three are real in one way or another.

    Now, you changed the topic. Please, once again, I am asking you to address the topic I posed to you. See, how I addressed the issue you brought up? That's all I ask:

    What is an ordinary Bible? Skipping over the question profits no one. An ambassador would not skip over the opportunity to teach the word of God. The great commission is calling. Answer it.

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  55. No Tim, Keith’s relationship is NOT between him and God and neither is the Word of God for private interpretation.

    I have said, “So, if your testimony would be true, then why did you not correct and rebuke Keith for worshiping the devil called Yahweh ?
    Why were you silent ?”

    OK, I say it again, there is one god (written with a little ‘g’) called Yahweh who is SATAN, and there is the TRUE God Jesus Christ (written with a big ‘G’), and Keith is worshipping SATAN who is called Yahweh the god of this world.

    Keith was explaining that very well, but you were silent.

    And if he wants to speak in Hebrew, then let him speak in Hebrew, BUT NOT the Word of God, because the Word of God is NOT Hebrew, the Word of God is written in English, as I have explained.

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  56. Paul,
    Yes it is between him and God as with all people. Only God can judge Keith, not you, not me, no one but God. But you add your own interpretation as well so judge yourself.

    You're wrong about YHWH, case closed.

    You said, the Word of God is written in English, as I have explained.

    No, you haven't explained that. That is why I keep asking you the SAME QUESTION over and over again. Let me backtrack and show you what you have done. I summarized your words like this: You said, “Germans have the Bible written in German for Germans.
    French have the Bible written in French for the French.
    Spaniards have the Bible written in Spanish for Spaniards.
    English have the Bible written in English for the English.
    To which YOU RESPONDED with "Yes they do,"

    So that means if someone is Hebrew then for them the word of God is written in Hebrew for them. Is it wrong for me to read the word of God in German?

    And now please tell me which English version should I be reading because you said we need to read it in English. Which ones on this list are approved by you?

    Amplified
    ASV
    CEV
    KJV
    NIV
    NASB
    Living Bible
    NLT
    The Message
    ESV
    Geneva
    Darby
    NET
    KJV 21st Century
    RSV
    Wycliffe
    Youngs Literal

    Which ones are ok? Which ones are the ordinary Bible?

    As an ambassador of Christ, you can't even answer one small question? Why can't you do that?

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  57. And since you won't answer anything anyway...when did English become a language? Don't have to be exact, just what time period?

    3000 BC?
    30 AD?
    1500 AD?

    You CAN'T answer that. You don't have the guts to do it. You don't have the knowledge to do it. You don't have anything within you that is able to do it.

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  58. Paul, You said, “Keith’s relationship is NOT between him and God and neither is the Word of God for private interpretation.”

    You continue to say things that are anti-biblical, even in the English versions.

    The Bible clearly says that you can inspect my fruits but my salvation is between God and me. As I have said in the past, you meet the bare minimum requirement for salvation, that is belief and an apparent reliance on Y’shua/Jesus for reconciliation and I believe your basic testimony. However, your fruits are far from that of a true believer. I do not believe that the real Jesus appeared to you and is guiding you along this path, because it goes against the Word of God,which manifested in the True Jesus in the first place.

    Even though I have called you an idiot, in the past, which I am sorry for, it doesn’t change the fact that you are doing idiotic things, such as believing in man’s word rather than God‘s word. There has to be a standard and that is the original text. We have resent it to you many times, but you refuse to see it. It’s not that you don’t really see it, it’s the fact that you refuse to investigate it for yourself, relying on your man-made doctrine instead.

    I have said many times that one of our guiding doctrinal verses is Acts 17:11.

    “Receive all message with eagerness of heart, but search the Scriptures daily to see whether it is true.”

    That same Scripture was not the B’rit Hadashah, the New Testament, for it had not been written yet. It was the Tanakh, The Old Testiment. At that time, the Tanakh was written in Hebrew, Greek and Samarian, not English, which wasn’t even a language at that time.

    It wasn’t until 550 through 1066 that English developed from a set of North Sea Germanic dialects originally spoken along the coasts of Frisia, Lower Saxony, Jutland, and Southern Sweden by Germanic tribes known as the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes. That’s over 500 years after the time of Jesus and his original disciples. I’m sorry, for you to say that English is the only version for salvation is plainly idiotic.

    Finally, you are correct in saying that the Scriptures are not for private interpretation. I agree, the Scriptures are to interpret it self. That’s why I told you many times to read it for yourself and not let Man teach you what is there but you refuse to use that God-given biblical model.

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  59. By the way, my testimony, as I have said many times and over on your blog is:

    I have confessed my sins. I have repented of my life choices. I have given myself totally over to God through his son, Y’shua/Jesus. Even though I sin an on a regular basis, I trust completely when the Word of God says that God is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins if we confess them. I glorify Y’shua/Jesus for his commitment to God and to the cross, as the ultimate sacrificial Lamb of God and his daily intercedence on our behalf. Above that, I glorify the one and only God, Yahweh, whose name is written over 6000 times in the Bible.

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  60. Huh ! the name Yahweh is written over 6000 times in the Bible.
    Are you kidding ?

    I have a few BIBLES in front of me, and the name Yahweh is NOT ONCE mentioned, NO not even once.

    Perhaps you have read that in the book of Alibaba and the forty thieves, but surely NOT in the Bible my friend.

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  61. Once again, you don’t address the main issue. You avoid the main question of the age and use of English and how it could not be the language of the Bible.

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  62. Paul,

    Which few Bibles do you have....that would answer one of the questions I have asked.

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