The Bible calls that force by the name of Satan, the opposer, the railer, one that is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. The world and Satan will attempt to prove that Satan is a figment of the imagination. Again, think about it. That is exactly what you would expect a deceiver to do, to keep his reality in flux, just beyond the point of certified reality. Allowing you to admit to yourself that Satan is real, alive and well, would prove that God is real.
Isaiah 1:18 says:
Proceed logically and judge for yourself, says YHWH.
That's what God and his Word encourages you to do. That's what logic and your logical mind tells you to do, deep down inside. Isn't funny how there is a force telling you not to? Isn't the constant opposition, proof of the truth, that resides in logic?
...and that's what you'll find, When You Search For The Truth.
Pick up Gods word to pray and seek him diligently and let the attack begin, every distraction becomes active and important.lol!
ReplyDeleteHey Brandon, isn't it amazing how the attacks begin, when you start going in the direction of God and his Word? And they increase the closer you get?
ReplyDeleteSome other things I wanted to mention was that as you read through the Scriptures people weren't very surprised at when Satan shows up like it is something of normality. Remember how Eve acted in the garden. But it wasn't until after the sin was committed they had obviously done something wrong they saw each other's nakedness something that is obvious. The bad thoughts come in they don't really Phase us but it's not until we've actually acted upon it that we feel how wrong it is. It's like he comes with a delusion.
ReplyDeleteYep, I agree. It's kind of like he shoots us with a shot, that numbs us, until afterwards. That's a great observation.
ReplyDeleteHi Keith,
ReplyDeleteGood post and good comments.
OK. Brandon and Keith and perhaps Brenda and whoever else, let the attacks begin.
After all, the LORD Jesus Christ said, “Come let us reason together” (Isaiah 8:18).
Now tell me, which ‘LORD’ is speaking in Isaiah 1:18 ?
Do you think that it is the LORD Jesus Christ or another lord ?
Perhaps little lord Fauntleroy ? :-)
Oops, I meant Isaiah 1:18 !
ReplyDeletePaul, I'm sorry if you feel attacked, when we counter with the truth of God's Word
ReplyDeleteTo answer your question, all one has to do is read the Bible, for themselves and find that it is YHWH, who Isaiah is quoting in Isaiah 1:18.
A neat fact is that YHWH shows up 6807 times in the Bible, more than any name within the Bible. Thanks for asking such a great question.
You don’t have to feel sorry my friend, for this very purpose the Lord Jesus Christ has called me for :-)
ReplyDeleteYes, that’s right my friend, in his days Isaiah quoted the Lord Jesus Christ, he just didn’t know His Name, because God’s Name had NOT been given in the Old Covenant (Testament).
In the Old Testament God was known under the TITLE ‘LORD’and 'God', and absolutely no one knew God’s one and only Name “JESUS”.
The four letters ‘YHWH’ supposed to be the Name of the Lord, but as we all know, YHWH is NOT a name. YHWH are four letters with no vowels so that no one can pronounce the Name of God.
Keith, the four letters YHWH are NOT written 6807 times in the Bible.
Be reasonable and don’t say things which are NOT true.
The four letters ‘YHWH’ are only ONCE mentioned in Exodus 3:14, because Moses wanted to know God’s Name, but the Lord Jesus did NOT give His Name to Moses or to anyone else.
Only when the LORD Jesus Christ caused Himself to be born into His own creation, then the whole world knew the ONLY Name of God which is ‘Jesus’ Matthew 1:25.
Now understand, YHWH is NOT a name !
You said, “To answer your question, all one has to do is read the Bible.”
ReplyDeleteWell, that’s not an acceptable answer, anyone can say that.
For this reason we have so many denomination and each one believes whatever they like to believe.
But the Lord Jesus Christ said through the mouth of Isaiah 1:18, 'COME let us REASON' !
John 12:41 Isaiah saw JESUS glory and spoke.
I have asked you, “Now tell me, which ‘LORD’ is speaking in Isaiah 1:18 ?”
“Do you think it is the LORD Jesus Christ or another lord ? perhaps little lord Fauntleroy ?”
Ephesians 4:5 says there is ONE Lord. If there is ONE Lord, then tell me which ONE ?
Zec. 14:9, ONE Lord and His NAME the ONLY NAME :-)
Paul, the reason why there are so many denominations is people like you that don't read their bible.
ReplyDeleteThanks Hiker Boy for your comment.
ReplyDeleteSince you think that I don’t read my Bible, then please why don’t you try to answer my questions and challenges.
I don't enter into discussions, Paul, when your position has no basis in fact, in or out of the bible. I have always believed that salvation came from a total trust in Jesus. However, your beliefs are definitely unique. (That is not intended as a compliment) Even though you appear to trust in Jesus, for your salvation, it also appears that your beliefs also require denying and denigrating our Father, which is the one and only God. That, sir, is not of God, regardless of what you say. I also believe that God has a special place for people like you that lead weak sheep away from the shepherd.
ReplyDeleteHey William, as you and I have discussed, Paul doesn't recognize scriptures literally. He believes that there is no literal level of interpretation, but only metaphorical, which leads to all kinds of false and unbiblical misinterpretation. He also believes that Jesus appeared to him and did a spiritual data dump, in the same way as Y'shua did to Shaul, on the way to Damascus. Please pray for him.
ReplyDeletePaul? You're asking why someone didn't answer your question or challenge? You still owe me about 15 answers. I have never not answered you. And yes I have answered ALL of your "then tell me which God are you talking about" questions.
ReplyDeleteHiker Boy, my believe is not unique, I have a simple believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and in NO other. Perhaps I should say it again, in absolutely NO other !
ReplyDeleteAny other is the devil.
God is ONE, and that God is the Lord Jesus Christ and any other god is the devil, it is the devil who is the god of this world (2 Cor. 4:4).
The devil is the god of this world because people believe in him and worship him.
Jesus made it clear that they belong to THEIR father the devil (John 8:44).
And yes, I mean literally they belong to their father the devil.
Tell me, WHO is your Father ?
Do I denigrate MY Father who is in heaven ?
Certainly NOT, to the contrary, I honour MY Father who is in heaven and I worship Him Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Tell me, which Father do you honour and worship ?
I’m glad to hear from you Keith, I thought that you might have become speechless :-)
ReplyDeleteRemember, the Lord Jesus Christ said through the mouth of Isaiah 1:18, ‘Come let us reason’.
I have asked you a few times, Zechariah 14:9 ‘ONE LORD and His Name the ONLY Name’.
Now reason that !
Do you call Jesus Christ Lord ? or do you call Yahweh Lord ? or perhaps, do you call BOTH of them Lord ?
Hi Tim,
ReplyDeleteJust ask a reasonable question and I will give you a reasonable answer for the hope that is in me.
Remember the Lord Lord Jesus Christ said, ‘Come let us reason’.
Now reason is with a truthful intelligence and not foolish speculations.
You see, there is only the TRUTH (John 14:6) and that is Jesus Christ, or the LIE which is the devil (2 Cor. 4:4) and anyone who is in between is IGNORANCE and his brother DECEPTION.
Can you point out which question is not reasonable?
ReplyDeletePaul,
ReplyDeleteSorry that you feel attacked, and it seems everyone here is trying to reason with you but to my understanding your ways are so much higher than anyone else's ways.
So that's why I want to know from you if you can only call Jesus lord, was JAMES wrong by saying that he is a bondservant of God AND of Jesus in JAMES 1:1? Why didn't he just say Jesus? Also notice he put God first then Jesus...
Now to answer your question on who The Lord is in Isaiah 1:18 just a few verses before this in Isaiah 1:9 it says unless the Lord of hosts have left to us a very small remnant, Isaiah uses the Lord of hosts declaring exactly who he is talking about also in Isaiah 1:24 he once again uses the Lord of hosts, and even goes on to say the mighty one of Israel. Now if you study or have Bible study software or look it up on blue letter Bible the Lord of hosts is always translated Yahweh of hosts so it would not be the Lord Jesus Christ for the word had not been made flesh yet which is who Jesus was YHWY's word made flesh and he shall be named Yeshua look up the meaning of his name =YHWH is salvation so how can you get Yahweh is salvation from Yahweh of hosts which no matter what translation your using it's there.
ReplyDeleteHi Brandon, I appreciate your comment and I like your thinking :-)
ReplyDeleteA soldier of the Lord Jesus Christ is ALWAYS under attack and he does not shrink back.
You said, “So that's why I want to know from you if you can only call Jesus lord, was JAMES wrong by saying that he is a bond servant of God AND of Jesus in JAMES 1:1? Why didn't he just say Jesus? Also notice he put God first then Jesus... “
Yes, you should only call Jesus Christ Lord and no one else, but with a big “L” and not with a little “l”.
The little lord Fauntleroy you can call lord with a little “l”, but NOT the Lord Jesus Christ.
You see, “Lord” means God, Lord is just another word for God, it’s not a name, it’s only a title, a title which belongs to Jesus Christ.
James 1:1, Yes, James could have just said “Jesus”, either way is correct.
Because Jesus Christ holds EVERY title and description and crowns, therefore the description “God” belongs to Jesus Christ, and the title Lord, Father, Son, Holy Spirit also belongs the the Lord Jesus Christ.
You said, “he put God first then Jesus”.
No Brandon, God is NOT divided, ‘God’ is the description of Jesus Christ, just the same as Father is the title of the Lord Jesus Christ, and Son is also a title of the Lord Jesus Christ, and so is ‘Christ’ and ‘Lord’ etc.
You see, the moment you divide God, you end up in serious problems.
Soon I will put up a post called, ‘The TRINITY, Deception Is In Dividing God !’
Also on your last comment, the Lord of hosts is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Or do you think that the Lord of hosts is another lord with a little “l” ?
Isaiah wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ (John 12:41), just the same as Moses did (John 5:46), and in fact ALL the Prophets (Acts 10:43), including me :-)
And the Lord of hosts does NOT translate ‘Yahweh’.
Yahweh is a name made up by some zealous people who wanted to give God a name.
Remember, only the Bible is God’s Word and NOT the commentaries.
Commentaries mostly lead you away from the Lord Jesus Christ to another god.
Your answers to my questions have led me to the same idea everyone else here has been led to, you just placed Yeshua the man to the status of the Father. I see why many don't want to continue debating with you there is no level ground. It's difficult to take what you're saying and apply it to all of John 17 and to read verses like John 17:3 and this is eternal life that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent, Jesus is saying that the father had sent him. He goes on in verse for saying I have glorified you the father on the earth I have finished the work you have given me to do. Then in verse 5 he goes on to say and now oh father glorify me together with yourself with the glory which I had with you before the world was.
ReplyDeleteHow do you put God manifest in the flesh witch was Yeshua at a higher authority than the very father he was speaking to which we discover in the Old Testament is Yahweh which didn't come from commentaries or any man with agendas it was the name that he gave to Moses and the name that was used all through the Torah and the prophets that later man translated into Lord?
Paul I can tell your sincere in what you believe, if I am wrong i hope God opens my eyes to he truth I'm missing but to be honest I once saw things to a similar understanding your describing but I found myself rejecting so much scripture cause of contradictions which was me molding Gods word to fit my Doctrine. I hope and pray if that's what your doing God teaches you his doctrine which is the whole word of God.
We can not add or take away from the scriptures is a very simple guideline, and we are told that all things will be put under the feet of Jesus except the One Who has put all things under Jesus' feet.
ReplyDelete1 Corinthians ch.15 verse 27.
ReplyDeleteI would talk to him but he never wants to talk to me. All he wants to do is repeat the same thing over and over. I just asked him one small question which is easily answered if it was truth but he chose to ignore it. It's not a debate anyway, it should be a discussion only. But yes Brandon you see the same things we do. Jesus was God. NO ONE here is saying anything different. But he says we are. But Jesus' flesh was not God. His spirit is but his flesh was not. Jesus is God in his natural really but took flesh and blood so that he can walk in our paths to show what life should be like. The body of Christ was not God but his spirit is. He has an issue with semantics and math. He has an issue because he adds to scripture and claims he doesn't. He has told himself so many times these things he believes the lie which he can't see.
ReplyDelete***natural realm not natural really
ReplyDeleteHe says he doesn't quote scripture but does it all the time. Lie or delusional? Maybe both.
ReplyDeleteTim, i agree with what your saying. I've seen him ask what Lord does keith worship and what lord certain scriptures are referring to, no matter what the answer is he seems to penalize everyone as worshiping the devil. Lol!
ReplyDeleteYes Brandon, that’s what I have been saying all along.
ReplyDeleteJust listen, so I don’t need to repeat that every time.
I believe and know that the Lord Jesus Christ is MY Father who is in heaven.
If Jesus Christ is NOT your Father, then WHO is your father ?
Is your father the one Jesus is accusing you in John 8:44 ?
Brandon, you can’t have it both ways, either the Lord Jesus Christ is your Father who is in heaven or Satan is your father; there is no other way and NO middle ground.
If you deny that Jesus Christ is your Father, then you DENY the Father and claim that the devil is your father.
Brandon, if there are only TWO, then tell me which one of the two is your father ?
And if you think that there is a THIRD one, then show it to me in the Bible
I John 2:22 “Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.”
Now, “the Christ” means God came in the flesh (Immanuel), or Jesus Christ has come in the flesh (1 John 4:2-3).
Concerning worship;
If you do NOT worship the Lord Jesus Christ, then WHO do you worship ?
ReplyDeletePaul if I have a son my seed is in him One thing he lacks is my spirit. In this case
Yeshua was of the seed of his father and also contained his spirit.
Matthew 11:27 and Luke 10:22 states that all things have been handed over to me by my father no one knows who the son is except the father and who the father is except the son and anyone to whom the son chooses to reveal him.
Notice Jesus didn't refer to the father is being himself.
John 5:17 but Yeshua said my father is still working and I also am working.
John 5:22 the father does not judge anyone but has handed over all judgment to the Son
23 so they all should honor the son, just as they honor the father. Whoever does not honor the son does not honor the father who sent him.
John 6:44 no one can come to me unless my father who sent me draws him and I will raise him up on the last day.
I'm kind of confused why Jesus hasn't referred to himself as being the father.
John 8:16 yet even if I do judge my judgment is true because it is not I alone but I with the father who sent me.
John 8:54 Jesus answered if I glorify myself my glory is nothing it is my father who gives me glory the one of whom you say he is our God.
So once again if Jesus is the father that means he was glorifying himself in John 8:54
John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my father is the gardener.
John 15:9 just as the father has loved me I also have love you abide in my love
John 20:17 Jesus says to her stop clinging to me for I have not yet gone up to the father. Go to my brothers and tell them, I am going up to my father and your father, to my God and your God.
Act 13:33 for God has for filled this promise to the children to us by raising up Jesus as it is also written in the second psalm you are my son today I have become your father
In 1 John 2:1 my children I am writing these things to you so that you will not sin but if anyone does sin we have an intercessor with the father the righteous Messiah Yeshua.
Revelation 3:21 to the one who overcomes I will grant the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I myself over came and sat down with my father on his throne
Ephesians 1:17 I pray that the God of our Lord Jesus, the Messiah, the most glorious father, would give you a Wise spirit, along with revelation that comes through knowing the Messiah fully.
Finally Someone other than Yeshua Rasises Yeshua from the dead and gives him a place at his right hand then states how high of authority this place is but never stated that his authority is higher than the one that raised him from the dead. Jesus cleared up the mess by saying it was his fathers throne in revelation 3:21
Ephesians 1:20-23which he brought in Christ when he raised him from the dead and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion and every name that is named not only in this world but also in that which is to come and he put all things in subjection under his feet , And gave him to be head over all things to the church,
Now concerning worship I have not found a time when Jesus requested anybody to worship him or Taught on the manner of anybody worshiping him when he spoke to the woman at the well he only spoke of a time when people worship the father in Jerusalem and then told the woman that an hour is coming it is here now when the true worshipers will worship the father in spirit and truth for the father is seeking such people as his worshipers.
So on that question I would say it is only through Jesus I can worship my Father YHWY in spirit and truth because Jesus is The way the truth and the life which no one can come to the father except through me(Jesus).
See he still ditches all of my questions and points. He can't refute anything I say.
ReplyDeleteBrandon, You said, “Paul if I have a son my seed is in him One thing he lacks is my spirit. In this case
ReplyDeleteYeshua was of the seed of his father and also contained his spirit.”
That is so with you, but that is not so with God.
God does not have a seed, He made his son out of the dust of the earth and called him Adam (Luke 3:38).
If God would have a seed then He would have needed a wife to produce a son.
And neither is the Lord Jesus Christ the seed of His Father, since God does not have a seed. And the Lord Jesus Christ does NOT have a father or a mother nor beginning of days nor end of life (Hebr. 7:3).
You said, “Notice Jesus didn't refer to the father is being himself.”
Yes Brandon He did.
Jesus made it clear that He is the Father.
He said, “I and the Father are ONE” (John 10:30). Consequently Jesus and the Father are NOT TWO as you have said.
And He said, “He who has seen Me has seen the FATHER” (John 14:9).
Because the Lord Jesus Christ does NOT have a father, but IS the Father, therefore the Lord Jesus said that concerning the Father He was speaking figuratively which is metaphorically about the Father (John 16:25).
All the Scripture passages you have quoted are figurative language which you do not understand.
You said, “Finally Someone other than Yeshua Rasises Yeshua from the dead and gives him a place at his right hand”
Well, the truth is that the Lord Jesus Christ raised Himself from the dead (John 2:19) on the third day.
But obviously you don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ at all, therefore you need to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and then you shall be saved, believe not, and you shall be damned.
That is the Gospel of salvation.
Paul, You said to Brandon, "God does not have a seed, He made his son."
ReplyDeleteI think you're finally getting it subconsciously. God cannot make himself. God does not make himself.
You also said, "If God would have a seed then He would have needed a wife to produce a son."
There you go again, thinking carnally, Israel is the wife of YHWH, spiritually.
“Return, O backsliding children,” says the Lord; “for I am married to you."
Physically, the seed of Mary produced their Son, Y'shua, Jesus. Spiritually, God indwells the Son.
The Remnant of God is the Bridesmaid of Y'shua. Two separate entities.
No matter how you put it, the Truth of the Word of God continually corrects you, Paul.
Tim, Lie or delusional? I think the evidence is clear. He definitely needs our prayers.
ReplyDeleteBrenda,
ReplyDelete"We can not add or take away from the scriptures is a very simple guideline."
You can't put it more simply than that.
Again, we need to pray for Paul continually, until he opens himself to the Spirit of God.
Brandon, Well stated!
ReplyDeleteThe first Adamson made from dust is not God's Son. The last Adam born of the Spirit of God is God's Son, and that is why scripture says we are able to become children of God. If we have to become children of God then it is obvious we are not born children of God in the flesh.
ReplyDeleteSorry, meant to say the first Adam.
ReplyDeleteExactly, Brenda! Are we God's sons or children, in the flesh? Absolutely not! However, by the power of God's Spirit and through our Reliant Faith in the Sacrificial Blood of Y'shua, we can become Sons', Children of God.
ReplyDeletePaul, I just notice that, again, you are misquoting scripture. Please stop misquoting scripture. John 2:19 doesn't say the Y'shua raised himself from the grave.
ReplyDelete"Yeshua answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up again.”"
I have to admit that, in the English, it is not quite clear. However, it is the Spirit of YHWH speaking through his Son. This is clarified in Romans 8:11.
"And if the SPIRIT of God (YHWH) who RAISED Jesus from the dead is living in you, HE (YHWH, NOT JESUS) who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of HIS (YHWH) Spirit who lives in you."
Again, in 1 Cor 6:14
"Now God indeed raised the Lord and he will raise us by his power."
And again, God raised Jesus (Acts 2:24, 32; 3:15, 26; 4:10; 5:30; 10:40; 13:30, 33, 34, 37).
Stop making yourself look foolish, by misquoting scripture. There is no way in the world that people will believe your claim that Jesus appeared to you and made you an ambassador, if you keep misquoting scripture. Stop it.
Could not have said it better Keith, and I am sure that many who read what you have written will be encouraged by it.
ReplyDeleteHiker boy I have just been going through Keith's previous post and noticed you had asked me a question about where I mentioned three bodies. No I wasn't talking about the trinity. That Word is not in the Bible. I was just using three bodies as an example to show that a group of people can be different on the outside but joined as one through being born of God's Spirit.
ReplyDeleteKeith, I have told you before that I do NOT often quote the Scriptures, because I think that you should be able to read the Scriptures for yourself.
ReplyDeleteI did NOT quoted (John 2:19), I only gave the reference. It seems to me that you don’t know the difference between a quote and a reference.
Well, it is obvious that not one of you believes in the Lord Jesus Christ and neither do you believe the Scriptures.
The Lord Jesus made it very clear that He will raise Himself Himself up on the third day and yet NOT ONE of you believes the Lord Jesus Christ.
Because not one of you believes in the Lord Jesus Christ therefore you wouldn't believe Him either when He said concerning the Father He was speaking figuratively.
Is there anything of the Scriptures you would believe ? I don’t think so.
I think that all of you are a typical picture of apostate western nations who only give the Lord Jesus occasional lip service. And for that reason the Lord will pass the cup of His worth against the western world.
Just look to your borders, can you see how the Lord Jesus Christ has opened the doors which none can shut.
Well, I don’t think that you can see that either, because He obviously hasn’t given you eyes to see.
So Paul are you accomplishing what you set out to do by continuing to return to this blog and make comments preaching your Gospel in which no one is receiving, you said it yourself?
ReplyDeleteWhat is keeping you returning?
Paul,
ReplyDeleteWhy are you so afraid to answer me?
Referencing scripture is implying a quote. It's the same thing except you don't copy and paste into your posts. I can say Genesis 1:1 all day long and it always implies that I am stating something in Genesis 1:1. However when you reference scripture and then misinterpret what it says it becomes erroneous, which is what you do. It doesn't matter if you actually rewrite the whole thing here it not, it's the same thing. But you don't seem to realize reality or common sense or can make connections beyond your wolves clothing.
Paul, I'm a big advocate of restating scripture, in your own words, while maintaining the actual meaning. But, when you do that, you are loosely quoting or paraphrasing scripture. However, you are misquoting, misstating and even changing the meaning and I am calling you on it.
ReplyDeleteOne last point. We all believe in the Lord and testify of our faith and are thereby saved. Thanks for constantly calling us liars.
Now back to the topic.
ReplyDeleteKeith although you know I would agree with you on your post, it would not prove it to any non-believer.
I'm not saying we have to prove it but sometimes logic and truth are not interchangeable, the atheist will not agree.
Thanks Brandon, but it was Keith who provoked me on my blog to return :-)
ReplyDeleteAnd I think that our debates are so needed in this present time when nobody put up with sound doctrines anymore.
And everyone congratulate one another for their unbelief.
Everybody and nearly every church believes whatever they want to believe, and also, they hardly believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, they use Him just as a mascot to sit on the shelf in their churches.
When the Lord Jesus Christ strikes their children dead in front of their eyes and their parents with cancer sickness and disease of the worst kind, they still will not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
They call upon their impotent god, but he can’t hear and heal them, he hasn’t got the power to do anything. Perhaps he himself hasn’t got any ears either.
They send their sick to the doctor because they obviously trust their doctor more than their god.
Well Brandon, I always hope that I might win one for the Lord Jesus Christ and snatch them out of the fire so that they might be saved.
That is the mission the Lord Jesus Christ has called me for and whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.
What about you Brandon ?
Keith, you said, “We all believe in the Lord and testify of our faith and are thereby saved.”
ReplyDeleteSo do the Muslims and the Jehovah Witnesses, Catholics and the Hare Krishna etc.
Tim, I do agree that it would not prove God definitively. However, it's a great conversation starter. I would then ask the nonbeliever to ask to explain how the phenomena, that is at war with very single human being, which opposes commitment of any kind (Agape).
ReplyDeleteWe all proclaim Jesus is Lord.
ReplyDeleteMuslims, Jehovah's witnesses, and Paul all add something to the Bible that isn't there.
Keith I want to hear more about the phenomena.
ReplyDeletePaul, I do agree with what you were saying but wishing Jesus would perform acts of vengeance on obviously us whom you would be referring to I don't agree with.
ReplyDeleteI cannot take your doctrine and search the Scriptures and find much truth in the doctrine that you are upholding other than Jesus is our salvation that's pretty much all I've found as truth or sound doctrine from you.
No Brandon, I speak in order that ALL of you might be saved.
ReplyDeleteYou see, If you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you will be saved, but if you do NOT believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you will be damned, and it doesn’t matter what your doctrines are.
By believing I mean, BELIEVING ! and not just acknowledging as all of you do and all religious people do.
Every church and every blasphemer acknowledges the Lord Jesus, but do they believe in Him ?
Well, I think NOT !
Does the Jehovah Witness church acknowledge Jesus ? Yes they do but they do NOT believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, they believe in ANOTHER god called Jehovah.
Perhaps just like ALL of you.
And for the same reason they will perish just like all of you. They are willfully ignorant and will not submit to the knowledge of the only God Jesus Christ (Jude 1:25).
Remember what the Lord Jesus said, ‘Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish' (Luke 13:3).
Tell me Brandon, how can you judge what is sound doctrine and truth when you yourself don’t believe in the truth (John 14:6) ?
Defeated Paul again. This debate is easy.
ReplyDeleteHey Tim, would you agree that the one thing consistent with every single human being is the fact that we find it hard to commit to something? It's a struggle. Whether it's a diet, marriage, exercise, practicing a musical instrument, even though it's the most important thing to you, you name it, we find it difficult to follow through. Why? If evolutionists, naturalists, etc., are correct, shouldn't we be evolving beyond this inability to excell? The answer is yes and it is evident that we are. So, again, why do we struggle? Because everyone of us has an undeniable antagonist, with a vested interest in each of us failing. Each one of us actually can attest to this, whether we admit it's Satan or our inner psyche. If we decide to do something we set our minds to, there should honestly not be any reason we can't do it, or nothing powerful enough that could stand in our way, but there is.
ReplyDeleteYes.
ReplyDeletePaul, in your opinion based upon your judgment I cannot use the Scriptures to test if a doctrine in is true or not. Because somehow you've already judged the fruit of my salvation.
ReplyDeleteSo far tell me what is believing and I mean in your opinion really believing tell me exactly what it looks like but please your scripture references to support your claim.
Paul, I totally agree with Tim. We all attest and proclaim that Y'shua is Lord. We are totally committed to our Lord. The plain difference is that we believe the scriptures and what it states. We believe that our God, YHWH, the Father of Y'Shua, sent his Son to die for our sins.
ReplyDeleteI was talking to Brandon today and he brought up Philipians 2. I also know that Brenda and I have brought this up to you before. I know that you don't believe the scriptures, but it states our position very well, which is in total opposition to your doctrine. Here it is:
Though he was in the form of God, he did not regard equality with God something to be possessed by force. On the contrary, he emptied himself, in that he took the form of a slave by becoming like human beings are. And when he appeared as a human being, he humbled himself still more by becoming obedient even to death - death on a stake as a criminal! Therefore God raised him to the highest place and gave him the name above every name; that in honor of the name given Yeshua, every knee will bow - in heaven, on earth and under the earth and every tongue will acknowledgeb that Yeshua the Messiah is ADONAI - to the glory of God the Father.
Brandon, you said, “Paul, in your opinion based upon your judgement I cannot use the Scriptures to test if a doctrine in is true or not.”
ReplyDeleteConcerning God and His doctrines I do NOT have my opinion nor my judgement. I belong to Jesus Christ who has redeemed me with His blood, therefore I have surrendered my opinion to the Lord Jesus Christ and whatever is the Lord’s opinion has become my opinion and whatever judgement there is, is the Lord’s judgement and not mine.
You said, “Because somehow you've already judged the fruit of my salvation.”
Brandon, you are already judged. That is because you do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, it is the Scriptures, the Word of God who has ALREADY judged you. Therefore you need to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
You said, “So far tell me what is believing and I mean in your opinion really believing tell me exactly what it looks like but please your scripture references to support your claim.”
This is NOT my opinion, this is what the Lord Jesus has said, (John 10:30) I and the Father are ONE and NOT TWO as you are saying.
Jesus said, (John 8:24) that you will die in your sin unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sin.
(John 13:19) so, when it does occur, you might believe that I am He.
Do you believe Jesus ?
I certainly don’t think so !
In every comment you have made quite clear that you believe in another god and therefore transgress the first and second commandment of the Lord and are guilty of ALL other commandment.
Yes Keith, you all proclaim that Y’Shua is lord.
ReplyDeleteBut the Scriptures commands you to proclaim that JESUS Christ is the LORD God the Almighty the creator of heaven and earth, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last and that beside Him is NO other God.
And yes, you are totally committed to your lord, but NOT to the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, otherwise you would agree with me and give me an AMEN.
You said, “ I know that you don't believe the scriptures,”
It is you who claims that the Bible is erroneous.
I claim to be a representative of the written and the living Word of God.
You said, “Though he was in the form of God, he did not regard equality with God something to be possessed by force. On the contrary, he emptied himself, in that he took the form of a slave by becoming like human beings are. And when he appeared as a human being, he humbled himself still more by becoming obedient even to death - death on a stake as a criminal! Therefore God raised him to the highest place and gave him the name above every name; that in honor of the name given Yeshua, every knee will bow - in heaven, on earth and under the earth and every tongue will acknowledgeb that Yeshua the Messiah is ADONAI - to the glory of God the Father.”
From where did you get that from ?
I think that you need to read the Bible properly.
“Although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be GRASPED, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. Being found in the appearance as a man,”.....etc. (Philippians 2:6-11)
Just read the Bible and think what it says and don’t insert stuff which is nonsense.
It doesn’t say ‘something to be possessed by force’.
A thing you certainly don’t grasp.
There is none more blind than those who cannot see, but worse is he that refuses to see. We will continue to pray for you, Paul.
ReplyDeleteBrandon, don't respond to him this time. You know your salvation is fine. You proclaim Jesus is the Christ, the son of the living God, same as what Peter said. Paul just tried to become your judge and failed. He also just lied because he said it is not in his opinion but added "I certainly don't THINK so" as part of his response. He doesn't understand synonyms, semantics, or other cultures. He believes white is right. Jews are bad news. He believes Moses spoke English. He believes Satan is as powerful as God.
ReplyDeleteGood people I think it is time to say goodbye to Paul. We all see the same thing in him. Our spirit knows where he comes from. Huge sign is that he keeps us from the topic at hand to add his lies. That is what Satan did to Eve. That is what Satan tried to do to Jesus.
Definition of grasp: To seize with eagerness.
ReplyDeleteHence it means to take by force.
Duh!!!!!!!
Tim, I agree with you, he has kept us from the point at hand.
ReplyDeleteHe also just lied because he said it is not in his opinion but added "I certainly don't THINK so" as part of his response.
I noticed that too!
Paul, nice talking to ya mate!
Brandon,
ReplyDeleteIt goes perfect with what Keith was saying; there is a force or one who opposes things we try to get done. "Saint" Paul in the Bible had a thorn and so forth. Coincidence? :)