Even though scientists understand the mechanics, by which this is happening, they are baffled about the way it came into being.
"It doesn't match any of our evolutionary models." says a recent NASA report. It went on to say, "The present orbit of Janus would have required a gentle nudge, to place it in its present orbital ballet with Epimetheus. Presently, there isn't any evidence to explain this, based on our present understanding of orbital mechanics."
Well, I can see God smiling right now. Also, I can actually hear him say, "Let's see what they say about this one. ", as he placed Janus and Epimetheus into orbit, all those years ago.
... and that's what you'll find, When You Search For The Truth.
Hmm... and scientists and evolutionists think they are smart?
ReplyDeleteI have never believed in evolution. :-)
Something about not seeing the trees for the forest, comes to mind. :-) LOL
ReplyDeleteGood post Keith, but I wonder which God can you see smiling ?
ReplyDeleteSurely it can't be Yahweh, since everything was created by the Lord Jesus and nothing came into being apart from Him :-)
Hi Paul. Thanks! Yes, it was YHWH, Yah Elohim, who created all things, for and by which would bring forth the deliver, Y'shua. All things were created to set up the glorification of the obedient son of God. It's in Collosians 1:16-18. Is there another verse, that I'm missing?
ReplyDeleteKeith, it wasn't Yahweh or Yah Elohim who created all things, it was the Lord Jesus Christ who created all things (John 1:3 – 10), by Him all things came into being.
ReplyDeleteThe same testimony is in Colossians 1:15 – 20.
Paul,
ReplyDelete1 Timothy ch. 2 v. says:-
'For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;'
John 1 v. 3 says:-
'THROUGH HIM all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.'
Colossians ch. 1 vs.19-22 says:-
'For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behaviour. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—'
The whole of what is written in these verses from different chapters in the Bible links together and makes perfect sense. We do not need to add or take away from anything written there.
Hi Paul, your diffulties understanding the scriptures come from not taking in all the applicable scriptures. Brenda filled it in, beautifully. All of creation was created for the sole purpose of introducing Y'shua, our salvation and to bring us back to God.
ReplyDeleteYes Brenda, 1 Tim.2:5 and John 1:3 does not say that there are TWO entities.
ReplyDeleteJust read it and think about it.
You should know that there is only ONE God who does ALL things ALONE (Isaiah 44:24), He does NOT do things THROUGH another.
It is your unbelief in the Lord Jesus Christ which prevents you from understanding the Scriptures and for that reason you embrace the doctrines of men rather than the doctrines of God.
(Col. 1:19 – 22) says exactly that which I am saying. You can't see it because you have a splinter in your eye and you don't want to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is for your good, if you read that passage slowly and think.
If you still can't see it, ask the Lord Jesus to open your eyes and give you eyes to see. Most people have eyes who see not and ears who hear not.
Keith, most people cook up a doctrine and then they find Scriptures to support their man-made doctrine.
ReplyDeletePaul,
ReplyDeleteWho is spoken about here in Collossians 1 19-22:-
'For God was pleased to have all His (God the Father) fullness dwell in Him,(Jesus) and THROUGH HIM (His Son) to reconcile to Himself (God the Father)all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through His blood (Jesus' blood), shed on the cross.
Once you were alienated from God (the Father) and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behaviour. But now He has reconciled you BY Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in His (God the Father) sight, without blemish and free from accusation—'
(All the words in brackets are my own words, not scripture, to describe Who the scripture is very obviously talking about.)
It tells us Who these verses are speaking of in Collossians 1 vs. 12-14:-
'and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light. For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son He (the Father)loves, IN whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.'
Praise our lovely Father God and His obedient Son for the reconciliation spoken of here.
Keith, you just put a post here at roughly the same time I did.:-)
ReplyDeletePaul, you are so correct. You comment is a great segue into some of the issues, within the Christian church. That's why I wanted to show you the facts, behind your doctrine.
ReplyDeleteTwo important eras, within the Christian church, to remember, is the paganization of the church and the so-called reformation. Both of these events resulted in numerous errors being introduced into the church. Two of these being the "Christ is the Father" and "Christ is God." doctrines.
These ideas were introduced due to the pagans not wanting to leave pagan ideas and rituals behind. They wanted their "Sun-God". Therefore, the Roman church gave it to them.
With the advent of the reformation, the translation of the Bible, into languages were done, by "so called scholars", without any rabbinical background, thereby introducing these pagan ideas, to the rest of the world.
The history is there for all, who will open their eyes. The beautiful thing is that God still preserved the main crux of salvation. Once again, God Wins, Satan looses.
Hi Benda, Yes, I had to delete the original one, because of the typos. Good Sunday to you!
ReplyDeleteBrenda, (Col. 1:19 -22) is spoken about the Lord Jesus.
ReplyDeleteConcerning God, ALL things are spoken about Jesus, and they are spoken BY the Lord Jesus. After all, the Bible is called God's Word, it is God who is speaking about Himself, it is NOT that one god is speaking about another god.
You are dividing God into TWO persons, you think that in the beginning was some kind of a god with his son, and those TWO having some kind of a relationship.
That is far from the truth Brenda, and you need to deal with that fallacy or you will continually stumble over all the Scriptures.
Keith, what you have said is man's understanding and it's not true.
ReplyDeleteIt is the Lord Jesus Christ who is building His Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
Do you think that man can pollute the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ, so that it needs a reformation ?
I don't think so my friend.
What you are talking about is the vain attempt to reform Catholicism the antichrist church which the Lord Jesus has raised up for His purposes.
There has to be a difference between the true Church and the false church, otherwise, how could we know ?
Paul, The answers to your questions/comments is as follows:
ReplyDeleteIt is the Lord Jesus Christ who is building His Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
Yes and No. The word, oikodomeo, translated as build, means to build as to establish or lay the foundation. Also, the second "I" doesn't appear in the text, another error, in the English Bible. The correct rendering is:
"You are Petros and upon this foundation (The Profession of Faith), build my church."
If you look at the next verse, you'll find the pronouns translated correctly and fits the previous verse, not contradict. Why do you think he wants us to spread the Gospel, if he was going to build it? Taking in the whole counsel of God, you'll find that we, the believers build the church, through the Spirit.
Check it out, for yourself.
Do you think that man can pollute the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ, so that it needs a reformation?
I don't think so my friend.
First of all, yes, man and Satan, pollutes the Kingdom. Only the remnant remains pure. The Kingdom Parables warns us of this.
Second, I said, "so-called reformation". Those are man's words, not mine. Your beliefs come out of the so-called reformation. There was no real reformation, but a further paganization of it.
What you are talking about is the vain attempt to reform Catholicism the antichrist church which the Lord Jesus has raised up for His purposes.
There has to be a difference between the true Church and the false church, otherwise, how could we know ?
I totally agree. However, the Remnant is the True church. The Catholic church and everthing that came out of it, including your belief system, is the anti-Christ church.
If you read the kingdom parables, you will find that some of the Remnant exists with the disciples of Satan. Our responsibility is to present the truth of Gods Word and allow the Spirit of God lead people into all truth. The problem is many won't , open their eyes and turn away from the false teachings. I am not judging you, but your beliefs are classic reprentation of how far the Kingdom has strayed.
No Paul,
ReplyDeleteI am not dividing God into two persons. I am saying that He is Spirit, not flesh, and therefore can be in all of us - just as He was in Jesus.
Jesus Himself said this to the woman of Samaria in John ch. 4 v. 24:-
'God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.'
She then said this to Jesus in verse 25:-
'I know that Messiah is coming' (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.”
To which Jesus responded to her by saying in verse 26:- 'I who speak to you am He.'
I believe the word 'Messiah' means 'anointed One'.
Keith, I have heard those interpretations before, nice, but not true.
ReplyDeleteThey are not true because those teachings render the Lord of glory Jesus Christ as a looser. It seems that the Scriptures never means what it says, it always means something different in another language, perhaps like sinking sand.
In English it is simply called 'the doctrines of man'.
You said, 'Your beliefs come out of the so-called reformation. There was no real reformation, but a further paganization of it.'
No my friend, I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and not some kind of reformed doctrines.
Most of the so called reformers believed in the doctrine of the trinity, while I oppose that doctrine severely.
The reformers tried to reform some of the Catholic doctrines and practices, while I reject ALL the Catholic doctrines and practices.
As for me, even the reformed doctrines are not good enough or complete in my understanding, I say understanding because I have not been taught by man but by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.
Well Brenda, do you think that there were TWO entities in the beginning ? A Father and a Son ? Yahweh and Jesus ?
ReplyDeleteOr was his son not there in the beginning ?
And how did this god Yahweh begot a son ?
Did he had a wife ?
And why did he need a son ?
Can't he do anything by himself ?
Paul, The English Bible is the translation. The Hebrew and Greek was the original text. Your Bible even says that. Look at it, my friend. Why don't you want to look at your own Bible. Also, you are correct, when you say, 'In English it is simply called 'the doctrines of man'. Most of the English Bible is the doctrines of man, not God's Doctrine.
ReplyDeleteYou say that your beliefs are not of the "Reformed" doctrine, but history records it differently.
No Keith, there are NO original text.
ReplyDeleteThe Bible has been translated from many different languages not only Greek and Hebrew.
The Bible is the Word of God and NOT isolated texts.
Paul, The earliest copies, of the Tanakh, (Old Testament)Bible, that we have, is the Masoretic Text, which was written in Hebrew,(500 AD) and the Septuagint, which was written in Greek (100 AD) and finally, our oldest Torah (The first five books) is the Aramaic and Hebrew version, called Targum Onqelos 600 AD, with fragments, as old as 100 BC. I almost guarantee that your version is translated from the Masoretic Text.
ReplyDelete... and that, my friend, is what you'll find, When You Search For The Truth.
I am saying what the Bible is saying Paul.
ReplyDeleteBrenda, Exactly. Our position and understanding is scripturally based. A Good Place To Be. With the Full Counsel of God as our foundation, we have no doubt that God has our back.
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